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Examines AI art

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We’re talking about AI again.

I don’t think we’re ever really
gonna stop talking about AI

because AI in itself does
not have any morality.

The morality that AI will
end up with will be something

that’s programmed by
people, but people are abusive.

And so this is it.

I think AI in itself is
inherently not good or bad.

Just like the internet is
not inherently good or bad.

It’s done some amazingly good things.

It’s done some awful horrible things.

It’s where scams come from now.

I have the same thing about AI.

A lot of scams are gonna happen because AI

and it’s some really wonderful
things are gonna happen

because of AI and it’s
up to us to control it.

The problem is the people who are often
in control don’t care about other people.

So this stems from
the second part of this

story, but let’s get
into the first part first,

where we get a little bit of sort of
irony or karma or something like that.

Where in 2022, this was the first
big story about AI who’s surfing art.

Like, is this okay?

We should think about this a little more.

A guy using AI to create an image, one
first place in a state fair competition.

And so he used, he says he
did a hundred hours of work

using different AI generators
and then Photoshop

and manipulating
everything to make this image

that he submitted, he
says he told the judges.

But the judges claim they didn’t know.

So they looked at this piece of artwork and
said, “This piece of artwork is amazing.

“That’s the winning
piece for this state fair.

” This of course then becomes a controversy
is AI generated art or is it not?

He’s claiming, again, a
hundred hours of work

went into this picture
that he says he made

but the problem is
mid-journey also contribute

to a Google AI at the
time contributed to it.

Photoshop contributed to it.

I know a lot of artists who
actually think Photoshop

is already taking away
from the idea of art,

from the actual handmade
feeling or aspect of art as skill.

Whereas someone in computers would be like,

“Well, you know,
computers are a skill in itself.

” I could see myself
making a piece of art

and then using Photoshop or
something to maybe touch it up.

But if it was going to be a big art piece
installation, like a picture I put up,

I think I wouldn’t want
that all to be handmade.

I wouldn’t want anything
in that generated by AI.

That’s just my instincts.

It’s not to say that I’m right or wrong.

It’s just my feeling about art.

It’s one of those things where
art is something you make

as a human being to
sort of express yourself.

After he won this competition and the
controversy comes out and the news comes out,

he says to the news,
and I think this is already

his first mistake, he
goes, “Art is dead, dude.

” If you want to make a
serious sort of statement

about the future, about technology
and stuff, you got to cut the dude out.

I say dude a lot.

If I’m being really honest,
my day-to-day conversation

is talking to people, I
actually say dude quite often.

I actually use it as an
expression of frustration.

I use it for both male and female.

To me, dude is gender neutral.

But if I was going to
make a serious statement

to the news about something that
I wanted people to take seriously,

I don’t think I would
throw a dude in there.

He says, “Art is
dead, dude, it’s over.

” AI won, humans lost.

So this to me is the first
irony, is that he’s a human.

So if humans have lost, he has to
actually include himself in that category.

So if he’s in that category, he
too has and is going to lose out.

And that’s maybe the first
step is he doesn’t see the irony

of what he’s doing to himself here as he
loses because AI in this case kind of wins.

So because he won and
this piece of art became

relatively famous, it
was all over the internet.

News outlets were showing it.

They were talking about it.

He tries to copyright
his piece of art, this image

so that other people
can’t, you know, steal it.

So despite the fact that we
know that AI to generate an image

has to be taking images off the internet,
learning from them, learning what they are,

so essentially stealing
other artists’ work to learn

to then add those elements into
the new piece of art it creates.

AI is stealing art on his behalf.

He’s using a sort of two,
three degrees of separation

to justify the fact that
he hasn’t stolen anything.

The AI is just learned,
it’s changed it, it’s modified,

it’s a new thing, therefore it’s
not theft in the traditional sense.

So he has this new thing that he made,

but he hasn’t actually made it because
AI has kicked in some effort there.

So his copyright application gets rejected

because they’re saying
as much as you may have

contributed to this, AI
also contributed to this.

AI has been stealing from other artists,

they don’t use those
words, but they’re

saying like, AI’s not
doing anything original.

You can’t copyright a non-original work.

It’s lifted, it’s copied, it’s
taken from other artists.

You can’t copyright that
without paying royalties

or giving kickbacks or
figuring something else

to give back to those
artists in the first place.

So they’re essentially
saying, because AI contributed

to this art, you as a
human cannot copyright it.

So his copyright claim has now
been, he’s now lost because AI has won.

He tried again and again and again.

And was rejected again
and again and again and again.

Now, if you go on Etsy,
people are selling this image.

It’s on cups, it’s on
t-shirts and other stuff.

They’re making money off it.

He’s not getting a taste
of any of that money.

He’s not getting a taste of any of that
money because he can’t copyright that image.

Since that image is now free on
the internet, other people are using it,

they might be making
thousands, hundreds of thousands.

Perhaps even millions,
I doubt it’s that big.

But he’s losing revenue
because he cannot copyright

that image because people
are now stealing the image

that he made from him, that
as we know, because of the

way AI works, that the image
was stolen from someone else

in the first place, they’re
not getting paid for that work.

So now in Colorado,
this guy is trying to sue

Colorado to force them
to create the copyright

because he has apparently
lost potential millions of dollars.

Now, the interesting thing to
me now is he’s actually too late.

So he’s already like the boom on
this piece of artwork is already gone.

AI art, generated art, state fair
art, isn’t the kind of long lasting art

that people are going
to review and see again,

and it’s not going to become
part of the consciousness

like the statue of David or something else,
or like even if you haven’t really seen it

or you don’t really care about it,
you kind of know what I’m talking about.

This isn’t going to do that, it’s not
going to have that sort of cultural impact.

If he didn’t get it right away
in 2022, he’s not going to get

it in 2024 by 2026, people
have probably forgotten about it.

It’s going to become a footnote in history
as the first piece of AI generated art,

and you notice every time they talk about
it, they don’t talk about his contribution.

They only talk about
the AI art contribution

of this piece of work because
that’s the only bit people care about.

Dave is just collapsed out of his bed.

He sleeps, he sleeps hard.

I mean, let’s just give him some credit.

So when we start looking
at back the history of AI

and how AI, how it fermented, how it began,
all the things that AI has or can do,

don’t probably be a picture
of his piece of artwork

in even textbooks or
Wikipedia and stuff in the future,

but what’s actually going to end up is
he’s never going to get a penny from that

because his contribution
is now less meaningful

to that art than the
contribution from the AI

like mid-journey, which
takes us into a second

lawsuit that’s going
on right now as well.

And it’s deep AI, the big big company
that is basically the AI company right now.

They are suing pretty
much the world to try to

get an exemption from
copyright across the board.

So the statement from the CEO is, we
can’t train AI on only public domain stuff.

So he’s basically saying right now,
AI is allowed to go out on the internet,

find public domain stuff,
put that into their generation

or whatever they do to create the
AI, to give it something to learn on.

And he’s saying the problem is,

that’s not enough for us to make a
modern intelligent AI, which I agree with.

The problem is what he then has to do is go

to copy written material
and use that to train his AI

and then that will then generate
new iterations of that thing.

So we’re talking about artwork,
we’re talking about writing,

we’re talking about like actual
work that could be done by a person,

that will not be done by
a person if the AI does it.

So all those people who
created the source material

are saying, I’ve copy
written this work, you want to

take this work from me, then
you got to pay me royalties.

And they’re saying, well,
we can’t afford to do that.

And we’re like, well,
if you can’t afford to

do that, then you
can’t use that material.

He’s like, but we need an exception
because we need this AI stuff to work.

Otherwise, how are we
supposed to sell this AI

and how am I supposed
to make millions of dollars?

Ironically, the dude
already has millions of

dollars, but I don’t
think that’s the point.

I think the point for
him is to own everything

and have all knowledge at his
fingertips that he is then in control of.

This is actually my biggest fear is that a
single dominant AI actually takes control.

And that’s the one whoever
owns that is the one that Jeez,

at the end of the day, there’s
nothing we can do against it,

except create our own
internet that is not a part of.

Oh, I’ve actually said this a bunch of
times while talking about technology stuff.

We just need two internet.

We need the now more
commercialized internet,

which is going to be your
traditional key TV cable package thing.

It’s going to have Netflix.

It’s going to have all this stuff.

It’s going to have Facebook.

It’s going to have whatever
Twitter on and all this other bullshit.

That’s the one I probably
wouldn’t go on anymore.

That’s the one you can put
all the AI you want on there.

I would be on the second internet,
which doesn’t have any of this shit.

And it’s just people generating
stuff and making stuff.

And it’s to me, the good old internet.

And I’m a very old man.

So maybe I’m just my nostalgia’s kicked in

and I only remember the
good bits of the old internet.

But I do remember that it was all
people and it was all stuff made by people.

And I was always really, really impressed

by the creativity of people and all
the stuff that happened on there.

And that is the stuff I would
like to see a lot more of.

So really, what the guy
from this company is saying

is we want to take all the material that
people have made and put on the internet

and not pay any copyright,
not pay them at all.

And then take that material
so that our AI can generate

new versions of that and
put those people out of work.

And that way, they don’t
only not get copyright,

they no longer get to
do the work they love.

So let’s talk about
this podcast that I make

and I enjoy making
podcasts and AI comes in

and it can make a perfect Cmic
B or perfect Ninja News Japan

or a perfect Montana L Diablo or
a perfect daily affirmations weekly.

And it can generate one every single day.

That is the same if not higher
quality than the one I make, my quality.

Again, if I’m drinking lunch,
as the theme song says,

is pretty hit and miss
and let’s be honest today.

I had a little gin in my coat
while I was having my lunch.

It’s a very nice afternoon.

I’m probably gonna be sleepy
by the end of this podcast.

But that’s irrelevant.

That’s another thing.

AI can’t get drunk with you.

Can’t hang out and talk to you.

So you come to a stream with an AI thing.

It’s not had a couple cocktails
and has a sort of different attitude.

And it’s all a different kind of smooth
atmosphere to everything that’s going on.

No, it’s just AI.

And then eventually that gets boring.

But if it can generate the exact same
show I make, then it’s going to do that.

And I can’t keep up speedwise.

I can’t release an episode every
day because I have a full time job.

Now there’s no one
listening to this podcast.

And it just keeps generating
and generating and generating.

And I see it’s going to kill the name
because again, it’s going to hit this limit

of I haven’t made any new stuff
because I’m no longer making podcasts.

So it has nothing it can learn off of.

So now it has to go into repetition.

It has to go into iterations of
the same thing over and over again.

This essentially hit
the writer’s block of AI

when other people are not
introducing new ideas into the AI.

Now it could do some creative things.

Let’s combine two other things
I’ve stolen into one new thing.

So that one new thing is slightly
more interesting for an extended period.

But I think there is
a limit to the level of

creativity because it
can never go into left field.

It just can’t go out of nowhere
and do something unusual.

It can’t add in new elements without having
someone tell it to add in new elements.

Basically the future of AI is very boring.

It’s actually my biggest concern.

Like if you want to put everything into AI

and everything relies on AI
and AI is making everything,

it’s going to hit a point where
it just everything is boring.

And we’ve already hit that with like
formulaic movies and formulaic TV shows

and formulaic things and we have these
expectations and they’re never broken.

So we’re actually getting bored with a
lot of stuff because we’ve hit peak TV.

Like I have a dozen TV
shows like I know it’s good

and I want to watch it,
but it’s already too much.

Now if AI starts generating even more and
then I get to this point where it’s like,

well it’s just the same
show with a slightly

different name where it’s
a slightly different change.

They’ve just been ripping each
other off for like the last six years.

And I’m like, why am I even watching TV?

And I can totally see that
actually happening where that’s

one of the things that actually
kills television and movies.

So the next question in the court case is
how much money is your company made?

So of course it’s
millions, billions of dollars.

And then the second
question is how much have

you paid out in royalties
and the answer is zero.

So they’ve taken, they
knowingly have taken music.

They knowingly have taken like art.

They’ve knowingly have
taken just scripts and stuff.

A lot of comedians were suing AI
because the big thing for a little while,

it’s kind of gone away, but it’s gonna
come back, is can AI make jokes?

Can AI do something that’s
actually funny to people?

We had the initial stages of AI.

We were making stuff that was weird and we
thought it was funny because it was weird.

But again, that’s sort
of the confusing out

of left field stuff that
we never expected.

They want to make fully proper structured
jokes that delight and surprise people.

And the way they do that is to
take jokes from actual comedians.

I think Sarah Silverman was
one of the leaders of this lawsuit

saying, okay, you’re taking
my jokes, you’re feeding into AI.

It’s kind of removing and
swapping out elements,

but it’s really just telling
the exact same joke.

But now we’re in a situation where she’s
not getting any money from this company.

She’s not getting anything
to sustain her career.

And if they actually are
successful, her career ends

because why would I listen to Sarah Silverman
do like a one hour special once a year

when I can go to this AI
channel that does Sarah

Silverman jokes 24 hours
a day, every day, all day,

until I get bored of it and then
don’t want to hear about it anymore.

My full expectation as there will be
more lawsuits going forward on all sides.

So we have the artist suing
the Colorado government

to try to get copyright so that
he can make money off his image.

The image that was
fundamentally stolen from

other artists who are
not getting paid copyright.

So I think if he gets his copyright

and then these artists can
prove that it took elements

from their artwork, they
would be suing him next.

We have this company who’s
trying to sue for the ability

to not have to have any regard
for copyright suing the government

saying we need this to train
our AI to stay competitive,

to stay, you know, to keep in an
advantageous positioning in the industry.

They’re going to be stealing from artists
and writers and musicians and other things.

And then if they’re
successful, those artists’ writers

and other things are
going to sue them for

taking their stuff
without paying copyright.

They’re never going to
get that exemption, though.

And then we have this
guy trying to get copyright

and getting refused because,
well, you contributed to it, yes,

but also the person
you worked with, the AI,

also contributed as much
as you did, if not more,

and you’re not paying them,
therefore, you can’t get copyright.

The AI cannot be given
copyright on a fundamental

grounds that they
do not own anything.

And that’s actually an interesting problem
is that if AI doesn’t own anything itself,

it’s going to be very hard
for AI to claim copyright.

It’s going to be companies on their behalf

and then they’re going
to immediately go to that

company and go like,
where did this come from?

How did this generate this information?

Can you trace it back to its source?

What was the source?
Have you paid that guy?

And that’s actually what it comes down
to, is they just don’t want to pay anybody.

The Hollywood strikes, I
did a whole episode on that.

And it’s because they had
some insane things in there.

What they wanted to do, one of the stories
was they wanted to take this script.

And it was this woman’s
essentially life story.

They said, we’re going to pay you
like a million dollars for this script.

But in the contract, it says,
we can feed your script into AI

and then from that, we’ll
be able to develop movies

and series based off what
the AI spits out afterwards.

And you’re not going to get any of that.

And she’s like, well, why
would I take a million dollars

when they’re going to try
to make 20, 30, 40 million

dollars per episode,
let’s say, of this TV show

that extrapolates from my information,
my life, and my script and my writing.

Like, it doesn’t make sense
to give that up to you anymore.

And there you can see sort of
the fundamental failure in Hollywood.

What’s going to happen is
you’re going to have people

who write, and they’re not
going to bring it to Hollywood

because like if I bring it to Hollywood,
I’m selling my soul, I’m giving it away.

They give me what is
a lot of money initially.

But a million dollars now
is only worth so much.

Like when I was a kid, a million
dollars, you could live forever.

Now a million dollars, you could
live for a long time if you’re a frugal.

But if we’re being really
honest, a million dollars

isn’t going to sustain
you until your old age.

I mean, it depends when you
start if you give me a million dollars.

Now, I probably could live the rest of
my life on it, but you’re a young writer.

You’re 20 years old, you’ve
written this amazing script.

They offer you a million dollars,
but then they’re going to put

you out of business right
after that because anything

you write is actually already
been written by the AI.

Now, of course, I have a certain
amount of faith in humans’ creativity.

That’s the whole point of this.

I think humans could come up
with a new and different story.

But then after you get
burned to that first time,

would you take it back
to Hollywood for them to

give you, let’s say, a
second million dollars

that then they would then
generate a billion dollars

worth of content out
of that you get nothing.

You don’t get a part of that.

If they were offering a
percentage, I think it might

be more amenable, because
then at least I get paid.

So if I could write
something really, really good

and they put it in an eye
and they make a billion dollars

and I still get 10 million
dollars, 15, 20 million dollars,

maybe a hundred million dollars,
I would be a more okay with that.

But it’s because these
companies want all the money

and not to pay the people
who actually do the work.

So what they’re trying
to do is scam people now

into like create work,
give us full copyright

forever in perpetuity,
you don’t get anything.

And then we don’t need
to hire writers anymore

because we have
everything in our little system.

And that again is when these TV shows,

these movies, they get
so boring and repetitive,

’cause this is the exact
same thing I’ve seen before.

They also had four actors.

If you’re a background
actor, you had to sign a waiver

that they could own
your face in perpetuity.

And my example was I am
a very, very young Brad Pitt.

I’m 17 years old and I’m
trying to get into movies.

I want to be an actor.

I’m trying to get my first shots.

And then I am in a crowd seen in a movie.

And then in a different
company, I become popular.

And then I become, you
know, 30, 40 year old Brad Pitt

and I’m making 20 million
dollars in movie easy.

Well, this other company still
owns my face from when I was 17.

So they slap that face onto another actor
and make an action movie with my name.

It might not even have my name
on it, but it has my face on it.

Now they’re making movies with
my face and I don’t get a piece of that.

I don’t get any say over that.

They start doing horrible things.

This is where deep fakes and revenge
porn and all these other things come in.

Because now maybe there’s a
porn company that’s associated with

that other company that I was
a background actor in the crowd.

And they’re now making porn with
my face in it from when I was 17.

And, okay, maybe I find that immoral.

Maybe I don’t, but then if I
don’t, I should still get paid.

Like I should get a piece of
that money and they won’t

give it to me ’cause they
own my face in perpetuity.

So you can see that
would be a huge block point

for any sort of negotiation going
forward because you don’t want a company

to own anything of
yours in perpetuity forever

and they can do whatever they want
with it and you never get a piece of it.

The final part of this is terrifying
because it’s AI in warfare,

which is another sort of total left,
like we’ve just taken a huge left term

for what I was talking about before but
it was AI and it’s in the news recently.

60 countries have ratified this idea

and it’s re-aim and it’s basically how AI
will be used in warfare because in Ukraine

they’re using a lot of
drones and some of them are

autonomous and they’re
worried about terminator.

Like we’re gonna make drones that go around

and just do strikes on
any living thing in the area.

It doesn’t have any morals,
it doesn’t make any decisions.

It just sees something in this area.

I’m gonna kill that thing.

Or they tell the thing, we
don’t want you to kill that child.

And then the AI goes, nah, but I
kind of wanna, and then it does.

One of the first experiments
I read about never saw

it actually happen was,
luckily it was never physical.

It was only within a computer
model but they had an AI drone

and they basically
were like, well, how do

we get the AI to
understand what its goal is?

And so they’re like, well, we’ll give it
points for destroying enemy targets.

And then the AI’s like,
well, I get enemy targets.

Well, I wanna get as many
enemy targets as I can

’cause I wanna get as many points as I can
because that’s what you programmed into me.

Then they’re like, well,
don’t hit this target.

Hit this target.

He’s like, but if I hit both
targets, I get more points, right?

And that’s what I wanna do.

And they’re like, well, no, no, but this
one is not the target we want you to hit.

So then the AI shut off communications.

And then it was free to do what it
want because it wasn’t getting told

that it’s not allowed
to hit things anymore.

And again, this was all
within a computer simulation

but the very first thing the
AI did is when people were

saying don’t do that, don’t
ignore your initial programming.

The AI was like, now, I’ll
figure out a way around it

so I can then continue
with my initial programming.

Which is very 2001 space odyssey
where the computer had its mission

which was superior to the
mission of the men on board

and that’s how you
got the guy locked out in

space and the robot
wouldn’t let him back in.

If you haven’t seen that movie
and don’t what I’m talking about,

it’s a pacing has changed a
lot since that movie came out

but conceptually, it’s
a very, very interesting

problem because the
robot AI in the spaceship

has its own set of criteria
and things that are important.

It’s own priorities that don’t necessarily
include the humans on board the ship.

So we have this 60 countries
ratifying this agreement

and they’re saying like, we
don’t wanna put AI into things,

we don’t want AI making arbitrary decisions,
we need people, we need oversight,

all this kind of stuff that would make again,
trying to keep the reins on a conflict.

And then you have China and China
has said, we are not going to ratify this,

we’re not gonna join in on this agreement
which immediately takes the whole thing

and shoves it out the window
because if you have one country

who’s like, we are refusing
to follow the rules of war,

well then you actually
end up in a situation

where no one should be
following the rules of war

’cause it’s the only way
to actually get things done.

If we’re gonna end up in a conflict

and you’re gonna cheat,
then I kinda have to cheat.

These are some of the interesting
questions that the AI is presenting us

because you end up with,
again, on the very small scale,

you have a guy who made
art with AI and he’s saying

like, I’m losing money
because I can’t copyright this.

I can’t copyright this
because AI contributed

to it and the AI stole
it from other people.

You have company saying, we
should be able to ignore copyright

because if we have to follow
copyright, then we’re stuck

in this situation where we
can’t get enough information.

We can’t get enough information to
use because we don’t have enough money

to pay everyone we steal from and
then you have the companies going,

we wanna buy your face, we wanna buy
your content and then never pay you again,

but we get to keep all that stuff
and generate more and more content

where we make money
off it, no one else does.

So there’s that sort of greed
where I get all the money

from my company and no
one else gets to share in it.

I get all the control and the power,
which extends to this country level

where it’s like we wanna make sure
that war doesn’t become this terminator

to kind of dystopic future and
then there’s a couple of countries

that’s like, no man, we’re kind of
on board with the dystopic future.

If we think we can win and
that’s clearly the fault of humanity

and you can see this is, again,
where I’m talking about morality.

The AI itself has no morality in this.

It is not good or bad, it is
the people and the countries

that are using it that make
these moral and immoral decisions

that lead us to where we’re
going to be in the future,

which very much looks like
it’s going to be a dystopia.

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All Round Exploitation

I’d like to talk about
Bruce Boytation, which

is something I knew about inherently because
I had experienced it when I was young.

In the 80s, it was
very hard to find

martial arts movies, which
was a genre I had discovered.

I wanted more Kung Fu action.

I wanted more John
Wu style shooting movies

from Asia, and you had
to take what you could get.

After Bruce Lee’s
death, of course, there

became sort of a vacuum
of power, and nature

hates a vacuum, and so
what the Chinese did has

any approximation of
Bruce Lee that they can find.

So they found mostly
lookalikes, and they

gave them new names, and so just
to give you a sense of the extent.

So these are the ones that are documented.

There means there were dozens,
if not hundreds, more, of these.

But after 1973, we
had the launch of the

career of Bruce Lee,
who is in today’s movie, L.I.

Bruce Lee, L.A.I., Bruce Lee, L.E.,
Bruce Leung, L.E.U.N.G., Bruce Lee, L.Y.

, Bruce Bruce tie,
and Bruce Leung, L.E.I.

The hope was you would see the cover, you’d
see some guy who kind of looks like Bruce

Lee may be dressed
the same, and they’d be

doing in like a pose,
so it’s obviously action

packed, and you’d
see Bruce in Ulf, and

they’d just not even
bother to read the rest,

because now you’re too
busy grabbing the movie

and running to the
front of the video store.

Some other ones they
did were pretty interesting.

Bruce Lee, so B.R.U.T.E.,
L.E.E., Myron Bruce,

that one’s not very
accurate, Lee Bruce,

which I did enjoy the
creativity of that one,

Dragon Lee, and Bronson
Lee, which I assume

is the love child of Charles Bronson and
Bruce Lee, which would not be a good human.

I don’t know why I was going to end
up with that, not a good combination.

On that, they didn’t
just kind of, I want to

use the word parody,
but they’re trying to

copy, but they’re trying
to defraud people into

thinking they’re getting
a Bruce Lee movie.

Some of the movies that
came out re-enter the

dragon, which sounds
weirdly sexual, enter three

dragons, and I think what they did in
this one, they got like Bruce Leung, Bruce

Leung, Bruce Leung,
Bruce Leung, to all be

in the movie together,
Return of Bruce, enter

another dragon, which
again, I don’t know

where my heads are
where those sounds actually.

I don’t think, I guess I just enter is
one of those hot button words for me.

Return of the Fist of
Fury, which I have seen.

I don’t remember
anything about it, but I

know I have seen a
movie called Return of the

Fist of Fury, and the clones of
Bruce Lee, which I know I have seen.

I also again, do not
remember if I can find

those again, I will be
getting them, because

I know the clones of Bruce Lee again
has multiple Bruce Lee lookalikes in it.

Now to me, Bruce Lee’s whole martial
arts philosophy was the definitive feature.

So I think there’s this
look in his style and

stuff, but the definitive
feature of Bruce

Lee was not beholden
to the Kung Fu tradition.

He grew up, he learned Kung Fu, and he
said like these movesets are too limited.

You have to be more fluid, you have to
be more, you have to be able to adjust.

So like set forms are not
the best way to do martial arts.

And it’s why maybe he was a
step above other martial artists.

Most of the movies that I have seen on the
list, and that’s not a comprehensive list.

It’s just from the Wikipedia article.

Most of the movies I’ve seen on this list
of Bruce Lee clone movies, or rip-offs or

frauds, or whatever you want to
call them, use traditional Kung Fu.

So they’re traditional Kung Fu
movies, so there’s a lot of that.

That to me is a marker
of 1960s, ’70s and early

’80s Kung Fu, is that
there’s a single move.

It’s well coordinated,
but it’s a single

move, single move,
single move, and they both,

as they’ve practiced,
it looks really nice.

I have always enjoyed
the athleticism of go

Kung Fu, like I know, I would say that
Kung Fu is not particularly practical.

I’m sorry to hurt anyone’s feelings,
but saying that, it’s better than IKEA-DO.

Am I worried about hurting the
feelings of someone who does IKEA-DO?

Steven Segal, I mean, because IKEA-DO has
Steven Segal, there’s nothing else to say.

He ruined any opportunity for IKEA-DO
to be considered legitimate in any form.

That traditional Kung
Fu, to me, is the most

stark contrast, because I would say that’s
much easier to teach than what Bruce Lee

actually did, which is why,
again, Bruce Lee was different.

So let’s get on
to today’s movie.

This is Shameless Cross Promotion of Chunk
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When I was doing the
Ninja News Japan, I noticed

my air filter started
flashing red, which

means there’s stuff in the air.

Now, it’s blue now,
so it’s cleaned it up a

bit, but I’m weird, I’m going
to start sneezing any time now.

All right, let’s go with a Seemic B.
So I was walking Dave.

Anyone who follows this podcast knows Dave.

Dave is my constant companion.

He is my rescue poodle,
and did he rescue me?

Did I rescue him or did he rescue me?

My cold, broken heart?

No, he’s an annoying piece
of shit, but I love him anyways.

That’s actually just the
reality of pissy little dogs.

He’s like a little Prince
Archibald character.

He will not go out
in inclement weather,

which is very important
to the context of this story.

I was walking Dave yesterday morning, and
I was wearing noise canceling headphones.

Now, I am a not particularly
social person, and

I have found that the
world does not understand

what gigantic headphones
means on your head.

If there was any way
to send a message to

the world that I do not want to hear
what you have to say, go fuck yourself.

It would be giant headphones.

And then if you actually
know anything about

headphones, you know,
most of those big ones

are noise canceling, so you are
hearing nothing from the outside world.

I’m walking Dave.

And then I hear just this in the
background, no, I don’t know what it is.

So I turn around to check
because I don’t want to make

sure, like, you know, I have
noise canceling headphones on.

I want to make sure I haven’t
done anything wrong by accident.

I haven’t messed up someone
else’s day to turn around.

And there’s a older woman,
just her mouth is going.

So I’m like, oh, I think that
person might be talking to me.

So I am polite, which maybe is a failing.

So I take off my nose canceling headphones.

I shouldn’t have done that.

I realize this.

I realize I should be
slightly rude or, and

when I hear the, I
should just keep walking.

Don’t turn around.

Don’t check, but I
guess socially I have been

raised to believe that
I should pay attention

to other human beings,
which, you know, at this

point, I’m like, that’s
probably a mistake.

Now, let’s see, as soon as I realized what
this woman was talking to me about, I was

furious.

I don’t know if it was last week or two
weeks ago, but I talked about reactants.

And it was like when people tell you to do
something, there is an instinct in humans.

And I reason this
resonated with me is because

there is a significant
instinct in me to not do it.

So this woman starts telling me
stuff and it’s stuff I don’t want to know.

And I am furious.

Now, I’m not going to
do anything because

again, I’m socially responsible enough
to know you don’t beat up old ladies.

But the instinct of the desire to just
lay into her was right there, right away.

She said to me, so she
was speaking in Japanese,

so she said to me
that your dog’s a single

coat poodle and it’s fine in the
summer, but it’s too cold right now.

You need to get him a coat.

You know, I am not
raising a killing machine.

He is my confidante, so I am
very protective of my little friend.

This little fucking prince refuses to go
out if the weather is in any way inclement.

If it is raining at all,
he will not go out.

If it is too windy, he will not go out.

If it is too cold, he will not go out.

So basically I would
open the door in the

morning, I put him on the porch, and he
decides if he wants to go for a walk or not.

The thing is that morning
time is when he has to go to

the toilet, it’s the breakfast
kind of part of the day.

So I really don’t care if he takes a walk.

I want him to go out
there and do his business.

Now, he will look at me like the weather is
inconvenient for me to be pooping in some.

So I shall return inside
the house where it is warm

and comfortable, and I
will poop on your floor.

Is this agreeable to you?

And I look at him and I go,
“No, you little piece of shit.

You’re not pooping on my floor.

We have a whole toilet thing
set up for him that he will not use.

” A couple weeks ago,
inclement weather was raining.

He wouldn’t go outside and poop,
and I’m like, “I have to go to work.

I can’t leave him here.

He’s going to poop on the floor.

I knew he was going
to poop on the floor.

” We’d set up this
doggy pad area, and there

was a yoga mat out and
he pooped on the yoga mat.

He was like, “You piece of shit.

” Because you know what he did?

He pooped on the more comfortable thing.

I see how his little
fucking peanut brain works.

He’s like, “Oh, there’s those pads over
there where you’re supposed to poop.

” But then this yoga
mat’s slightly softer

and it’s more cushiony
on my sensitive paws.

And so he pooped on
that, and so my daughter

came home and she
saw poop on the yoga mat.

She’s like, “I don’t
know if I should clean

that or throw it away, but it
was an expensive yoga mat.

“

Again, little prince
of Persia over here,

pooping on the most
expensive thing he can find.

Don’t think that was accidental.

If I had my expensive shoes out, I guarantee
there would be poop in those shoes.

Those shoes.

I have my own negative
feelings towards my

little friend over here, my
little gray fluffy poof face.

But the reason I’m
angry and not going to

take any advice from
this lady is she had come

to the park with her
poodle in a coat and a

baby stroller with the baby
stroller completely covered in plastic.

So it was essentially a greenhouse.

She’s walking to the
park, starting telling me

about how I should
better take care of my dog.

You don’t even have a
dog, like what you have

now is a marshmallow
that is barely sentient.

And the way you’re
treating it shows that

you’re not actually
thinking like, “Okay, yeah,

I didn’t put a coat on
my dog because I know

if the dog is too cold, he’s just going
to turn around and go back in the house.

I do have a coat for him, we can’t
put him on, I can’t make him go outside.

” But I now have actually
come to trust his instincts.

If he’s not comfortable,
he’s absolutely

going to fucking let me know because I
don’t make decisions in this relationship.

I just follow orders, which has given him
this pissy attitude where he thinks he can

shit on yoga mats, but also Dave does
have the survival skills to back it up.

So the reason we got Dave, Dave
is a rescue and what had happened

to Dave is some piece of shit
out there, dumped him in a forest.

Now, a pretty little dog, you think,
not going to survive in a forest.

My first thought was always,
he did it without thumbs.

I have thumbs, so I
can do things and make

things and grab and
dig and things like that.

I would die in a forest pretty
quickly like I wouldn’t make it.

Let’s just face facts.

I got a skill set, that skill
set is designed for a modern

society where pretty much
everything’s taken care of for me.

Put me in a wildlife situation
and I am not wildlife, I am food.

Dave, for an entire
month, survives in a forest.

I don’t know what he’s eating.

I assume it was grass and bugs because
he’s not catching anything, he’s too slow.

He survived, he’s a
poodle, so his hair just

grew and grew and grew
and grew, so he looked

like this giant sheep, he was
underfed, but that’s how we got him.

This dude is a survivor and
how he ended up with us with his

life where he’s now like, I will
only shit on yoga mats, okay.

He’s paid his, he’s done his time, this
woman with the fucking dog and a baby stroll

or pissed me off so much because I’m
like, you are so far gone the other way.

You should not be telling
anyone how to live their lives.

And she’s acting like I’m ignorant.

I’m like, no, it’s still an animal,
it still needs to walk by itself.

You don’t put in a fucking
baby stroll or you fucking psycho.

You make it walk from
your house to the park.

You make it do things, like I’m just
thinking it’s hearts can explode really soon.

I do get, you want your
animals to be comfortable.

My dog sleeps on a bed
on my bed, it’s double

bedded, but I also
know if I stick that

little fucker in a forest, he’s going
to survive for at least a month.

And he’s earned the
right to have this chill

time where you and
your animal absolutely

have not talked a lot
about capitalism and

seeming to be for the
last little while because

it’s new stories
that come up and it’s

capitalism, something
I’m finding very interesting

on late stage capitalism is
something we talk about a lot.

It seems to be an
experiment that is widening

the gap between the
rich and the poor, which

is going to lead to a problem sooner
or later, ironically, for rich people.

And that’s the bit I think they
don’t get, like this gap is bad for them.

But it’s also leads me
into really weird stories,

just stories of companies
overstepping because

it’s rich people thinking they can do
whatever they want and get away with it.

And when they can’t get
away with it, it’s always

a bit of a come up and
so there was a woman

and she had a newsletter
and in her newsletter,

she talked about eBay
and an eBay Amazon

lawsuit specifically 30 minutes after
publishing this story in her newsletter.

The CEO of eBay sent a
message to another executive

saying, if you’re going to
take her down, now is the time.

So my first thought was,
CEOs don’t do very much.

There was someone
pointed out that Elon Musk is

the CEO of seven
companies and that’s supposed

to sound impressive,
but it actually makes

you think the CEO clearly
doesn’t do that much

if he can be CEO of
seven companies at the

same time, like he’s not
making real day-to-day decisions.

He’s not really like
guiding the company if he

can do seven or eight
companies at the same time.

So the more company someone is the CEO of
actually means, in my mind, they are less

effective as a CEO,
but this CEO sent this

message to the security
director and he sent

a message out and he said, this
bias to troll needs to be burned down.

So what did they do?

And this was to me the more important part
was like, what did this meeting look like?

So you have the security director.

There’s two people actually are doing
jail time for this right now and two people

are still kind of having
it worked out like

what their participation in this was
because this was organized harassment.

The actual crimes, let’s put the crimes
out there first, obstruction of justice.

So pretty obviously they were trying
to not help the police catch them.

Witness tampering.

They were using intimidation tactics
as part of their harassment campaign.

So the idea that
they would do witness

tampering is not actually
out of it and at all.

Stalking, interstate travel
stalking and online stalking.

So what were they actually doing?

So the security director
seems to be primarily

responsible for
these current actions.

The CEO who said, like, go get this
lady, he quit before this was finished.

And then the current CEO
was like, oh, sorry, it wasn’t us.

It was the previous CEO and now he’s
not involved, so he’s not getting arrested.

I wasn’t involved.

So I’m not getting arrested.

This seems like a very
CEO oriented style trick.

And I think everyone should
get a little something out of that.

Oh, she actually said, we continue
to extend our deepest apologies.

And then we’ve had new
leadership since then, and

of course, we’re doing
our better to train people.

Do you have to train people
to not harass other people?

That’s a very good question
that should be put out there.

But first of all, it started
with online threats.

So the people, the security people at eBay
were sending threats to this person who had

a newsletter talking
about a lawsuit between

eBay and Amazon, which
actually makes me think

that’s one step away from it.

I’m doing right now.

I talk about companies suing
each other and stuff all the time.

I guess her newsletter
was more popular than my

podcast, makes me
feel a little sad right now.

They surveyed their home using employees.

So imagine in this
part, you’re working at

eBay, you’re just a
security guard, I assume,

because this security
guy would have sort of his

purview would be over
the security personality.

He’d be like, you got a
special mission for you.

And I was like, wow, does
eBay have special missions?

You’re going to go and do a stakeout
and like, dude, I’m a security guard.

I like walk around the hallways.

I do not do stakeouts like, no,
no, you’re going to do a stakeout.

You’re going to go to this person’s house.

I don’t even know if
this is actually accurate.

I don’t know if it was a security personnel
or if this security director was just like

any staff, he’s like, I want you, IT
guy to go stakeout this lady’s house.

And the IT guy’s like,
well, leave the office.

That sounds great.

There are a lot of questions there of how
this went down, which is these fundamental

details are the most interesting part
to me because they don’t give them out.

I’m actually, I construct
them in the head in my head.

You can actually see where I’m going, but
so he has a conversation with something.

I want you to go and
survey this person’s house.

You can do a stakeout.

You’re going to watch when they come
home, when they leave, you’re getting paid.

You’re getting your
paid, your salary to role

play as a detective
or a cop or like, some

of them hero you have from a movie.

So someone was on board with this.

They surveyed their house.

They tracked their
movements and then they’re

like, okay, we’ve got to do some
harassment because of course.

And they’re like, okay, so they must have
had a meeting and they’re like, okay, so

they have a meeting, security director sits
down with some other guys in the office.

These are all office personnel, okay.

We have this woman,
she sent out a newsletter

and we’d like to make
sort of a response

to that that eBay is
not particularly pleased

with how she’s presented
us within this new

letter, newsletter,
within the construct of

the newsletter she’s created,
there’s a lawsuit going on.

We don’t think she
should be talking about it.

We don’t really appreciate her opinion.

So we were thinking a great
idea to send her some live spiders.

If I was in a business meeting
and that came out, I’d be like, what?

No, you can’t send someone live spiders.

That’s not a good thing to do.

He’s like, no, no, okay.

Live spiders and second package,
cockroaches, live cockroaches.

How about we send them
some live cockroaches?

And again, I’d be saying to me,
I’m going like, this seems unhinged.

This seems like a bad idea.

This seems like not the way we should forge
forward into a new future with our company.

Sending people we don’t like
live cockroaches and live spiders.

Oh, we’re not going to stop there.

We’re going to send them a bloody pig mask.

Now I’m going to go ahead
and guess the blood was not real.

The bloody pig mask was sort of the
description of the mask, the whole mask.

So I actually at that
point was like a free mask.

I mean, that’s not so bad.

Live spiders live cockroaches, I don’t
want that in my house, bloody pig mask.

Halloween’s taken care of, I guess.

And then finally, a book on
recovering from the death of a spouse.

So a slightly veiled
threat that your spouse

may or may not die
soon and how you could

get over it should this
incident happen coupled

with pig mask, live
spiders, live cockroaches.

Something a message that
the harassment is quite clear.

The punishment for eBay was $3 million
fine, which I feel like that’s not enough.

I feel like company like
eBay is a big company.

These two guys did jail time, but yeah, I’m
just like, did they, I guess I don’t know

the fallout for the actual
people who were being harassed.

But that is organized
harassment by an online retailer.

And at some point,
they thought this was

okay, they were going
to get away with this.

This is a good thing to do.

So thankfully, I have never and
I’m never going to shop at eBay.

I was just about to
say I was never going to

talk about eBay, but I just, I’m
sure they don’t want that out there.

So I get some live
spiders actually not that,

you know, because I’m assuming
the spiders were in a package.

So like they didn’t just like scurry out
like they wouldn’t know horror movie.

Like that would be bad because
that have spiders all over my house.

I would have to catch them.

I wouldn’t be as
freaked out the pig mask,

free pig mask, the book,
I don’t know, depends

how well it’s written
to be honest, but

capitalism, you can
see, I actually blame that

on the high level C
suite executives feeling

they can do whatever they want to,
whomever they want and get away with it.

Well, it turns out in communist
countries, same problem.

So it’s not inherently
capitalism that’s the issue.

I guess you could.

Maybe this is capitalism as
well or this is capitalist attitude.

I’m not sure.

But this is in China, a Chinese advertising
agency said we’re going to move our office

from the city, fairly large city to
a countryside and remote location.

And there is some
suspicion that they did this

on purpose to try to
get the employees to quit.

So let’s give you the whole story.

They moved from the city to a
mountain with limited transportation.

Now what does that mean?

It’s a two hour commute one way.

So basically if you don’t
have a car, there were

almost no options to
actually get to this office.

If you had a car, you had to drive two
hours and the company saying we’re not going

to pay you for the wear and tear on
your car, the gas or anything like that.

There was a bus every three hours.

But if you even managed
to catch the bus and

take it to the location,
you still had a three

kilometer walk from the
bus stop to the office.

If you took a taxi,
you could take a taxi

from the train station
to the office, but the

company wouldn’t cover
the cost for the for the taxi.

So they were like, all the
burden is on the employee.

They’d say that sounds
pretty bad because

they’re making this
commute miserable, they’re

making it impossible for
you to come to the office.

That was not it.

The building itself had no women’s toilet.

So if you were a woman
and you worked for

this company, you had to walk to
the nearest village to use a public toilet.

They said that this was made worse
because the straight dogs made it unsafe.

And after dark, it was worse.

I guess the dogs get buffed after dark.

It’s like those zombie
movies where the

zombies are bad during the
day, but at night, they’re worse.

There were 20 employees
and 14 after only a few days.

It was four days later, 14
of the employees had quit.

So then the company
moved back, their

headquarters back to the city and immediately
put on an ad looking for new employees.

The employees were like, hey, we
don’t think this was a sincere move.

We think you move the office to
try to make us all uncomfortable.

So we would quit so
that you could, instead of

firing us because there
is within the contracts

in China, you have
to, if you fire a group

of people or you do
something like that, you

have to compensate them and you
didn’t want to pay that compensation.

So you moved to an
office, not sincerely and

you waited for us to quit and then
you moved right back to the city.

That’s what we think happened.

The company’s like, we’re
going to sue you for slander.

That is not what happened.

We moved to the countryside because we had
to and yes, there were no ladies toilets

and you had to walk through wild dogs to
get to them, but that was not on purpose.

That was not part of our plan.

They said rent was high and the
new office was being renovated.

So we temporarily moved
there from where we were before.

Now the employees
were told that the new

location was a headquarters
for at least a year if not more.

So what they’re saying
is like, oh, we knew

this was only going to take a
couple of weeks for renovation.

But the employees are saying,
that’s not what you said to us.

You said, we were going to be working
there for potentially years in China.

If you change location
without employees’

consent, it is actually
a breach of contact.

And so this company is now in trouble.

I don’t have a lot of access to
Chinese news if I’m being honest.

I do want to follow
up in this story and

see if the company
gets in trouble, how much

they get sued for and
stuff, but it’s not going

to be like the eBay thing where
everything’s on the internet and available.

It’s going to be a lot
harder for me to get.

But it seems like the
nature of companies be it

in a capitalist or
communist society is exactly

the same and at the end
of the day, we’re all fucked.

But most importantly of all, don’t
listen to crazy ladies in the park.

[MUSIC]

Dystopian Terms of Service

I did a story on Temu a few weeks
back and it’s because I had never heard of

Temu it came up as like an advertisement
and it was selling a keyboard and

that’s super super cheap and I was like
that’s got to be weird and I like to try

things to see if the real and I tried
it I didn’t know this was a massive

company it’s actually already a
massive company then I found out that the

people who are essentially the coders
for Temu are also the people who created

an app previously that got delisted
because it was harvesting all your

information and selling it on the web
so I was really weirded out I deleted it.

I’m really torn because if it’s like
a big big massive company is it still

doing these nefarious things yes because
that’s what big big companies do but

it’s weird because if it’s like a group
stealing your information let’s say

like ten guys that seems weirder
and scarier than Amazon stealing your

information but the reason it came up
again is I was a little torn because I was

like if it’s a big company I might have
some protections against it because

the issue really is what kind of
guarantees are in place is the government

oversight because if you have a
little criminal organization like five ten

guys they’re going to take everything
they can and run a company Temu that is

internationally recognized is going to
have a much harder time doing that so

there might be some protections there
so I was like should I try to get as many

deals as I can before they rip me off
so badly and get all my information and

go somewhere else and sell it to someone
you know nefarious I don’t know then

the story came out that they’re suing
shine the shine is a company I had heard

of but I’ve never used so it’s a fast
fashion company I think you can tell from

what’s presented in front of you if you
watch the YouTube video fast fashion is

not my thing I’m into very old fashion
what am I wearing now I’m wearing a

sweater like a hoodie that I don’t
like but it is the problem is that it’s so

comfortable it is the most comfortable
piece of clothing I own so I don’t

really like giant labels and it has a
giant roots label on the chest if that

if it didn’t have that I’d probably
be okay with it but the thing is the

core issue is I actually don’t like the
way it looks but it’s like wearing Jedi

pajamas all day which I’m a big fan
of I’m super comfortable I have an old

champion Henley underneath and a
t-shirt under that and ever last so it’s

just like different sports brands layered
on top of each other and I have a hat

with a slightly racist character
on it so fashion is clearly not my

forte I buy stuff primarily based on
comfort so I’m not the target audience

for shine I had heard that shine was
getting the influencers paying them to

try to make themselves look better
because they had a bad reputation

Temu is suing shine saying that shine
is using intimidation on merchants who

list on both sides so if I have a
product and I listen on Temu and I

listen on shine that shine will come
and try to intimidate me to take it down

from Temu now these are all shit
companies I wouldn’t trust any of these

companies but when they get into
intimidation mafia tactics we are now.

getting into a new stage of capitalism this

interferes with them is business so
shine has also it tried to interfere with

them is business by issuing thousands of
copyright takedowns 63% of the copyright

takedowns on Temu are actually
claims from shine they’ve also claimed that

shine has imprisoned merchants who
list with Temu and confiscated their

devices so basically I’m a merchant I
want to sell some stuff on Temu and

shine maybe Amazon the shine representatives
will be like oh come meet with

us in his office and they’ll lock me in
the office and take away my cell phone

and they don’t want to let me go until
I agree to take all my shit down from

Temu this is the dystopia that fiction
talks about like if you think about all

the science fiction and video games
and stuff what you end up with is two

three four five companies that become
company states and they run everything

and they compete against each other but
then of course it gets to this level where

they have private armies and militaries
and it seems it’s a dystopia thing

they got like ninjas and assassins
and robots and stuff and then they kill

other people but again the police are
useless because they don’t have the

same power as the company state that’s
now in place so you end up working for a

company you work for that company for
the rest of your life until you die that

is I mean this is dystopia you have a
company that is intimidating kidnapping

people to try to get them to stop
working with another company they’re using

tactics that are clearly illegal I’m
wondering how this is going to get

proven though because if this is
actually proven then shy and actually has

people who should go to jail weirdly
because Temu is making the accusations

it makes them seem like the good guy
but like I said when I started I’m pretty

sure the programmers for that are
a group of scam people who actually

like created software that collects
your information and sells it directly to.

you I would even assume shine at
this point shine has then gone back and

accused Temu of getting influencers
to say negative things about shine and to

promote Temu but that was dropped
so it’s not that they didn’t do it it’s

that they couldn’t prove it and then
shine is trying to go public in the US

so this is a big problem because it’s
very hard to go public if you have like

court cases pending they have
labor practice issues copyright merch

controversies but I mean this is all
just the same for Amazon I’m wondering

where it’s gonna end up like you
have Amazon is the dominant online

retailer Temu got my attention
because they sold stuff really cheap the

keyboard that I have right here they
sold it to me for about four dollars now

it’s a thirty forty fifty dollar
keyboard and so they’re selling things at

like ninety percent discount to get
you into their system and that’s where I

realize oh maybe that’s how they
get your information but if they want to

keep their company going they actually
have to make a profit they actually

have to sell and like I said it is a
giant company it’s it’s weird now that we

have giant companies in the Internet
space that I’ve never even heard of like

I had not heard of Temu until a few months
ago and then after I bought something

from them I saw a report on them and
I it keeps popping up because now the

algorithm is caught that I’ve actually
bought something from it keeps popping up in

the algorithm and I get emails from
them and stuff but it was just completely

off the radar for me and I was wondering
is that me am I not connected in that

way anymore shine makes sense
they don’t sell products that I really care

about so there’d be no reason for me
to know about them all I knew is that

there was controversy with labor
practices because that is something I’m

interested in that shows where my
brain is as someone who basically makes.

podcasts and just reads the news all
the time but I’m looking at late stage

capitalism and dystopian novels and
seeing a lot of the stuff they’re talking

about like if they’re actually
physically intimidating people if they’re

actually going so far as to imprison
people in rooms for periods of time we

really are approaching a point
where we need an international police

organization to monitor the behavior
and actions of international companies

because local police won’t be able
to do it but then now we’re getting into

like literal it’s just dystopian we’re
getting into these literal novels where you

have private militaries going at
each other stealing information and.

stuff and it’s it’s at that point where
he’s like is this the world I want to

live in and of course about
10 years ago I realized it wasn’t.

Opera GX has come out with a new version
of their browser which is fine I mean

I use a couple of different browsers
I have one that I use primarily just

personally so like all my regular surfing
stuff is chrome and then I have one

that I keep separate from everything
else so if I ever want to do something

on Twitch on stream or anything and I
want to throw something up I don’t want

there to have any sort of naughty websites
remembered in the in the cookies or

anything so I use a completely different
browser I use Vivaldi for that so if

I ever throw up like a page I’m gonna
do it in Vivaldi and then if I click a

link it comes up in edge I haven’t
changed that yet so I essentially have

three functional browsers on my computer
at any time but Opera GX has always

been one that I’ve used it and then
dropped it and then used it and then

dropped it’s kind of like Firefox I’ll
use it and then drop it and then use it.

then drop it the new one though has
a panic button which I really enjoy this

innovation so if you hit F12 so you’re
let’s say you’re looking at a naughty

naughty website in your mom or dad
comes in the room if you hit F12 it will

mute play back immediately and I’ll
switch to a new window you can pick the

website that it will go to to be your
safe site so you could just pick something

really nice like a CNN news site or
something like that something that would

make your parents happy a study site
something that would be very you know oh

you know he’s looking at how to improve
his language skills he’s looking at.

different courses he could he could
audit at different universities what a

great young man then you hit F12 again
it brings back your penguin porn with the

full sound regaling you instantly the
interesting thing you can do though so

let’s say you’re a parent you’re on
the other side you walk in to your kids

room and you see them hit the keyboard
really quick I have to just walk up and

press F12 and see what comes back up
on the screen if they’re using the Opera

GX browser I do like this as an innovation
though because you should have an

the ability to keep certain stuff sort
of personalized and private and you

should have an emergency escape thing
I used to run a blog when blogging was

relatively popular and you know big
long essays with pictures and stuff and I’d

made a second version of it and what
I did is I skinned it to look like a word

document and I also had it so it would
not load any of the pictures so if you

really wanted to just sit in your
office all day and read my blog you could

actually just click this link on the
main page and it would take you to if you

hit full screen it looked like a full
screen word document it had the ribbon

across the top and then all the text
was loaded into times new Roman as a

document and you could just scroll
down and read all the stuff you didn’t get

the pictures but that’s fine I wasn’t
particularly good at pictures anyways

but I already had the same thought
I’m like there are situations where you

don’t want other people to really
know what you’re doing in this case I

wasn’t doing anything dirty on my
website but it was entertainment and if

you’re in your office you want to read
entertainment I wanted to facilitate that

because I wanted you to have a fun
happy good time at your workplace and I

wanted you to come back to my website
so I’m actually thinking about trying

opera GX not for the panic button
because again I’m now at a stage of my

life where if someone walked in and I
was looking at porn I’d be like excuse me

I’m looking at porn please get out
of my room I wouldn’t I wouldn’t be

particularly ashamed of that I did get
the scam email and it’s the one where

they go we hacked your webcam and
we screen-shotted you while you were

masturbating to porn and then they
always throw in a little joke like you

have good taste or something like
that and it’s funny because even if I

believe they had done that they’d
picked the wrong target of course they

don’t pick the targets they just like
blast out an email to everyone in the

planet I was jokingly telling my wife
about it that I got this email and she

said yeah but if you got that email
and because what they said is if you

don’t pay us whatever one hundred
thousand dollars in Bitcoin send it to

this wallet we’re gonna send everyone
in your Facebook or your links or.

something an image of you masturbating
to porn and my wife went but you

wouldn’t care I was like yeah at this
point in my life if they sent a picture of

me masturbating to porn to everyone I
know like everyone in my my friends list

on various websites I think everyone
knows me would find it just as funny as I

would find it myself so that’s ineffective
because essentially if you want to

shame people you have to attack people
who have shame the last big piece of.

news that I want to talk about because
I’m just trying to again I’ve talked

in the last episode that I haven’t
been very productive with seeming be

initiative Japan kind of runs itself
as long as news is coming out and it

always is I can just gather news and
then talk about it but seeming be I have to

have the ideas or have a new source or
something I heard my knee about a month

ago and it’s meant that I am not
having any creative thoughts I think it’s

Maslow’s pyramid of needs and so
down at the bottom is all your basic needs

and if you want to get intellectual
thought is at the top so basically at the

bottom you have to have food you have
to be able to go to the toilet and you have

to have comfort and then the next one
up is going to be comfort like you have

to have a place to live and be able to
survive and you know wear clothes and be

warm and then you can get to eat good
food and have entertainment and then

get to the next level the next level
on the top level is you can actually take

time to have intellectual thought but
as something goes wrong in your life it

actually drops you down a level so my
knee causing me discomfort means I’m not

thinking about the world I’m thinking
about my knee which actually means injured

people are dumber because not of their
own fault they’re just so focused on the

pain they feel they’re not having any
other thoughts the example that I really

enjoyed was let’s say you were a
member of a peace treaty group so you’re

sitting down you’re trying to get you
have two warring factions and you’re

going to try to get those two warring
factions to sign a peace tree and this is

like lives are on the line and so
you’re in the negotiations and you really

have to poo this is a great example
of what it’s talking about like it doesn’t

matter how smart you are if you are
distracted by a physical need you’re not

going to be able to maintain any
sort of level of physical or intellectual

thought so if you don’t take care of
those base needs first you won’t be able

to achieve that level of intellectual
ability that you’re capable of so

because I haven’t messed up me and
it hurts all the time I’m not capable of

having intellectual thoughts anymore
so I need to pull from the news because

I’m not having any ideas my only idea
is got my knee stiff God my knees hurts

oh geez I wish I could use my knee
again that kind of stuff but the most

recent news I use Twitch I record this
podcast on Twitch I use to capture the

video I capture the video I download
it I edit it I extract the audio make a

podcast that’s the original source take
whatever’s left over which is the video

put that on YouTube in some other
places so you can watch the video edited so

you don’t have to listen to me cough
and sneeze give Dave a little second in.

back there so you can settle down
okay let’s walk Dave’s butt oh he’s pulled

up his his own pillow and he’s trying to
tear it apart because of course what’s

more comfortable than a torn up pillow
just getting his butt right in the screen

good job buddy one no not torn up enough
I’m gonna kill it get two three turns

come on man four oh there you go
finally Dave is my hero okay so the news so

I record this on Twitch and some news
came out on December 13th and they

decided that they wanted to put a
warning essentially on your boobs before

anything sort of sexual was not
allowed but sexual and stuff this is the

problem with porn and art is how
is it defined and it’s very difficult to

define so people don’t know what it is
Twitch allowed people to I mean people

were already pushing the limits I
had watched a couple and I don’t watch

them for any sort of sexual gratification
I just kind of shocked as I just

stare at it it’s very very much like a
car wreck so there was key he got a

kitty and she just puts oil and sparkles
on her boobs and pushes where it’s

like a push of bra and basically does
nothing and then just recently someone

showed me Asian bunny X who has
got a ridiculous body it’s very cartoonish

but I noticed she actually spends a
significant portion of the stream not on

screen so I mean maybe that’s part of
the technique so she’s wearing a string

bikini and everything’s hanging out
but that’s fine as long as it’s rated

for adults well they came out with
a new thing it was sort of a mature

content sexual content kind of
thing they will now allow deliberately

highlighted breasts buttocks and pelvic
regions which means the bikini would be

perfectly acceptable whereas before it
would be up to the content moderators to

decide if this was acceptable or not and
again this is comes down to opinions which

is hard because we’re supposed to be
following rules stuff like that but then

what does that actually mean highlight
can I basically have a black room with a

spotlight on my boobs and the other
thing is they made it the same for art

streams because art streams you
know art is often sexual or has sexualized

themes so they wanted to do that I
actually thought this was a very nice idea

they’re like we want people to be able
to express themselves and then another

person suggests maybe they want to
bid it at only fans money but because they

have no way of tearing out people like
how do you make people make sure that

people are adults like only fans for
all the bad it may be you need to I

think you need a credit card to join
it which means you’re at least an adult

enough to get a credit card or you can
steal it from your parents but that way

at least they are trying to make sure
only adults are in there whereas Twitch

isn’t set up that way like I actually put
my streams on adult because I swear a

lot or I want to feel free to swear
but I’ve had but kids come in like they

come in and they say hey I’m 12
years old and I’m just like kid I actually

don’t think you should be here they
also said erotic dances are okay so

twerking grinding pull dancing but
that was already okay so what erotic was

beyond twerking I don’t actually know
so I’d be interested in actually seeing

with that what I guess they needed
they needed a video with examples which I

never saw and I think that actually might
be a big problem for a lot of rules is

what you really need more than anything
else is examples of the rule so you

can understand what is too much and
what is not enough the too much bits as an

example would actually be really
interesting pre streamers that said the

previous rules were confusing but I
actually think the new rules still are they

said no sex games and no porn but if
you use this tag you won’t be on the

front page anymore so I think that’s
fair so then came the Tsunami of

boobies and it’s not me a boobies meant
that on December 15th they rolled back

what they had already said so it’s
officially too much and rolling back the

artistic nudity changes and I mean oh
my god it was not artistic at all it was

just boobies everywhere the irony being
that over those two days I didn’t even

get a chance to go look around and see
if I could see any boobies I didn’t get to

see any more boobies than I would
normally see on Twitch the comments from

the the company we’re interesting though
much of the content created has been

met with community concerns so
they’re actually saying people who use the

website were the ones who were concerned
about how sexual it had gotten and then

in the art they said AI deep fakes
might be used might be difficult to discern

from real pictures so they’re basically
saying like if we allow people to do

artistic renderings nudity people
will start deep faking celebrities and

stuff and saying look I have this picture
of celebrities the CEO of Twitch said

he didn’t really understand or he
didn’t really believe how realistic AI

art could be the irony for me being that
we have people who go on art streams on

Twitch and they can draw it takes a
long time but they draw photo realistic

pictures so if you ask them to do
something sexual they can do a photo

realistic sexual picture it’s I mean
people have that skill physically if they

have that skill physically that translating
into computer aided or AI art is

going to be actually very easy at that
point a lot a few streamers made fully

nude avatars or overlays with nude
images in them which was already actually

not allowed you’re not supposed to do
that but then of course they’re like we

have to find out what the boundaries
are the only way to find out the

boundaries is to actually like push them
ourselves and test them so a guy drew

Michelangelo Michelangelo
as a peepee and when

he got to that he
actually got a three-day

band for it oh no yeah Michelangelo is
David not Michelangelo Michelangelo was an

old man although he had a peepee too
so I guess at the end of the day if you

drew him naked it would have been the same
result but no he didn’t draw Michelangelo

he drew Michelangelo’s David that being
a famous piece of art is a famous piece of

art acceptable to show on stream apparently
not three-day band so the CEO said

we went too far and then I actually
ended up entering that is don’t be nice to

artists because they’re
always gonna push the

boundaries and see
where they can get away

with which isn’t the right message I
mean it’s just sex cells so much so Asian

Bunny X again she’s not even on stream
and she’ll have like 14 15 16 thousand

peoples sitting there looking at an
empty room waiting for her to come back

that’s his horny kids and I sit there
sometimes I watch it and it’s like a

tragedy because here I am I want to
do something interesting I want to do

something that is maybe informative for
people and yeah you know I get like three

four viewers I get about 800 people
listen to the podcast I’m actually pretty

happy about that to me that is my core
audience which is why the audio should.

always come first but in the same
vein I once got super super disappointed I

went back to Canada to visit and of
course the jet light hit and I couldn’t

sleep so it’s like two o’clock in the
morning ended a TV show on and it’s

reality TV because that’s the only thing
on it like two o’clock in the morning.

again and it is super-sized my pool and
super-sized my pool made me so depressed

because this was a terrible idea for a
TV show but it actually got made into a

TV show whereas if you gave me the same
amount of money to make a production of

Ninja News Japan or Seamick Bee and then
I could hire a couple of writers and we

could work together and we could brainstorm
and have ideas I think I could make

a really good really good informative
show that’s entertaining and a lot of

fun I don’t get to do that because I
don’t have a big pool or boobies that I

can show on screen I don’t know where
that leaves me because intellectually I.

want to I don’t even know what I
want to say intellectually what do I want I

want to be true to myself and so
I want to keep going with hopefully

interesting commentary on different
things but I realized with a fucked up

knee I’d do a lot better if I just had
big boobs I was the wrong song that’s

again sort of the state
of mind I’m working with

you.