The Callous of my Heart

[Music]

Premise.

I was going to actually
talk about this previously.

Previously on Peter’s or about shit.

My face. Previously in my face.

That’s what it should be called.

It’s like two months ago.

I got banged in the head in judo
and honestly it wasn’t that bad.

It’s what I thought.

And then I went home and put ice on it.

And I was like, okay, I’m
going to get a black eye.

It’s fine.
I’ve had those like a million times.

Then it went.

It went on and on and on.

It did not stop.

I was like, okay, this is worse.

It’s not turning black.

It was actually my biggest concern.

Because it’s not turning black.

Maybe I think it was like something more.

So then I went to the eye doctor.

And the eye doctor said your left eye.

The pressure is at five.

Which is good.

That’s normal.

So normal is apparently
between zero and ten.

Your right eye.

I forgot the exact.

I wrote down the number.

It was like 156.

It was hundreds of times more
than what it was supposed to be.

Your left eye.

Which one?

It was my right eye.

It was my right temple.

It was my right temple.

It was my right temple.

Your right eye was at
the bottom of the ocean.

Yes.

So it turns out the muscles
inside were so swollen.

It was squishing my eye.

And it changed basically my prescription.

This is where the premise came from.

So then I had to go on
steroids and in drops and stuff.

And all this other stuff.

And about two weeks later it was fine.

The next day.

The compression chamber.

Did your eye get the bends?

I’ve done a decompression chamber.

Really?

Yeah.

My university had one.

And you go into them for sports injuries.

So my university was one
of the biggest in Canada.

Tangent immediately.

It was one of the biggest in Canada.

And so it had like a full football
team, full basketball team.

The Giro team was nothing.

It’s like a side project.

Yeah.

That we had a teacher
so they made a judo club.

But all these facilities existed.

So because we
were official sports

team of the university,
we did get access.

We just got shitty access.

So it was like at three
o’clock in the morning,

if you’d like to use the
decompression chamber, you can.

10 minutes.

No, no.

But I mean, I was like– I
was like, someone else needs it.

Yeah.

And then someone who’s good needs it.

It’s what we support.

It’s like a member of
the football team needs it.

So you know, you have to get out.

But I did, yeah, I did it in university.

You just said it didn’t–
it wasn’t that bad.

Like I thought it would
be like feel different.

You just kind of sit there.

I didn’t understand
what was going on maybe.

Maybe they didn’t turn it on.

They didn’t even turn it on.

It’s like a lot of placebo effect.

It’s like a lot of placebo effect.

Like this dumb shit.

He does judo.

He’s not going to know it.

Yeah.

He’s been bagged in the head enough.

That’s he think they
did the football guys, too.

Yeah.

No, no.

Yeah.

A lot of the stuff was
for the football team.

Our football team.

Yeah, but they’ve been
bagged in the head a lot.

A lot more than you.

Oh, yeah, I’m sure.

Because they do it on purpose.

Yeah.

I’ve been– They push that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They push that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It’s never been on purpose.

So.

But then I– after this
sort of eye adventure,

I was thinking like–
I– Why– You–

Why– You– Myself
and I adventure.

Why didn’t this hurt more?

Why didn’t this like affect me more?

I realized like it went
back to two years ago.

When I was in the hospital.

And they did that scan where they
put the radiation thing in my body.

And scanned all my
inflammation and scar tissue.

And the guy who ran that
machine thought it was broken.

And– Of the machine was broken.

Yeah, yeah.

So they put me in the machine.

And he was very proud–

This, this, this, Japanese dude
was super proud of this machine.

Because he was clearly
the only guy who can use it.

And he’s like, he’s like, “Mm-mm,
mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm.

King of my little castle.

This is my domain.”

You know, he clearly was in charge.

And then he turned on the machine.

And then he turned on the machine.

And then he turned on the machine.

And then he turned on the machine.

And then he walked out of the room.

And he walked back in with his
very concerned look on his face.

And he started doing
adjustments on the machine.

And he walked out– He
was like– Mumbling to him.

Why isn’t this guy dead?

Yeah, he’s like, “Wait,
I’m not too far off.

Zombies.”.

And then he came back in two times.

And then he just went
out and never came back.

And then I was in the bed in
the hospital waiting for results.

And the doctor came in and he just
looked at me like, “What the fuck?”

Yeah.

So basically my entire spine, my
hips, my neck, any joint had scar tissue

from 30 plus years of judo.

And so I realized like all that
is cumulative pain tolerance,

which is why I probably
got smacked in the head.

It probably hurt a lot, but
I’m just so used to pain.

Yeah.

It didn’t bother me.

It just why I didn’t go to
the doctor for like two weeks.

Yeah.

So I thought that was
interesting as a concept as an idea

because it’s like, we
consider pain tolerance good,

but it’s your body
sending you a message

that you should go
take care of something,

which I did not do.

Yeah, but some– I don’t know.

Yeah, maybe it’s just men.

We’re just idiots.

Because sometimes I
get a pain and I’m like,

“Ah, it’s just one of
them random pains.”

Like, it just comes and goes.

Like, I just ignore it.

It’s all right.

I think that’s fair.

I think the toxic masculinity
culture thing is a big part of it.

I think that is relevant.

Because I never, you know,
I never, no one ever told me

that feeling pain is like not manly.

That was never something that was said,

but I guess maybe I
absorbed it from somewhere.

All the man I think, honestly, all
of toxic masculinity is never taught.

It’s just culture.

Like, they don’t teach you culture.

You just grow up around it.

And you see how the other men act.

You see, again, our movies and stuff.

This, actually, I have
another applicable story.

Can you give me the end
of any sort of kumite movie?

So, Jean-Claude Van Damme,
he goes to a fighting tournament.

The last fight.

Can you summarize the last fight?

What happens in the last fight?

He gets his ass beat and he’s
bleeding and bruised and broken.

And then, some is some demon
from another dimension and wins.

Exactly.

Okay.

So, would you like to know the
real version that I went through?

Of course.

Then you got your ass beat and died.

No, no.

So, I was trying to get
into the nationals in Canada.

I was trying to go to
the Olympics, basically.

Yeah.

So, I’d won essentially half of Canada.

I needed to win.

Nice.

I needed to win the other half.

So, I– He did Canada.

I was– The French half,
or the– The French half.

The French half is actually
way better at chewed on me.

So, I’m in this judo tournament and I’m–

judo’s a lot of grabbing
onto the callers and stuff.

And this guy takes two of my
fingers and bends them backwards.

So, he breaks my little finger and I
think he, like, messed up the next one.

So, little fingers hurt.

Yeah.

So, what do I do?

I’ve seen a lot of movies in my life.

I’m like, tape it up.

I’m going back in.

Yeah.

Okay.

Because the end of every movie
I’ve ever seen and how do you win?

You win with your heart.

It’s not– You know, it’s
not– It’s not– It’s not great.

Yeah, it’s not how much you’ve trained
or how much you believe in yourself.

And I believe in myself.

And so, I am crying at this point.

So, they tape–

I tape up my fingers and I go back
in three seconds for the guy to win.

Yeah, I bet.

Because you can’t do
judo with only one hand.

And he just, like, ripped me apart
and I’m just lying in the ground going,

“Oh, this was dumb.”

And then, that’s the end of my judo career.

Yeah.

Backing off the mats, I’m
just bawling my eyes out.

I’m trying not to let anyone see
because I still have all the toxic

masculinity and stuff.

Just me just tears running down
my face and I’m like telling myself it’s

just because it hurts my hand.

I’m just like, “No, my
dreams have all ended.”

But that is the realistic
version of the end of that story.

Something bad happens that you
do not, you know, power through.

You do power through, yeah.

Like, you leading from my ears and my eyes.

You still got to win.

You just get your ass kicked.

Yeah.

So I was wondering, I have tons and
tons of stories about getting hurt, but

it’s all judo stuff.

But I was wondering,
like, what do you

think is the most pain
you felt at one time?

Oh, physically, like, the worst?

No, my diet don’t feel anything anymore.

Oh, that’s actually, yes,
that’s the callus of your heart.

The callus of my
heart, yeah, the,

it’s like, like, chicken
gristle in there.

But, um, I think
the worst physical

pain I’ve ever been
in was a kidney stone.

I’ve never had one.

Oh, my God.

I…

Oh, I thought a broken bone.

Like, a broken bone
was the worst pain

I’d ever had until I
got a kidney stone.

Did you, what, what, what,
what, what, what, did you break?

I’ve broken my, my, both, my feet,
like, metatarsals and both my feet.

How did you do that?

Um, I actually don’t even know.

Oh, no, that’s so much worse.

Well, I just kept
walking around as well,

like, making it swell
up and get worse.

Yeah.

And I’m like, I’ll go away, I’ll go
away until I could barely walk.

And then I finally
went to the doctor

and he went, yeah,
he broke in your bones.

And I’m like, what?

He said, be, where it
is, you can’t do anything.

So he just gave me some crutches
and said, just keep it off the ground.

Yeah, I’ve broken most of my toes.

Um, I think I’ve broken toes, but
I’ve never done anything about it.

There’s nothing you can do.

You can’t put a little
cast on it or anything.

So I just carried on with my day.

The best you could do is just tape it up.

I actually, um, I broke my little toe
in a judo practice and then I just put

on some really tight
shoes and I heard this crrrr.

And I was like, oh, it’s back in place.

No.

Right?

I’ve never dislocated anything.

That’s one thing.

The other thing I broke was my forearm.

I fell out of a tree.

Did that hurt?

I almost hurt.

Yeah, but… The bone
break doesn’t hurt.

It’s on the muscles
around it and stuff that hurt.

Yeah, I don’t really remember it hurting.

It is more like a quick snap of pain.

And then I was just like, oh, that hurts.

Like, the like that kind
of like, oh, that hurts.

And I wasn’t like crying dying.

I was like, oh, that really hurts.

Oh, yeah, that hurts.

This sucks.

Yeah.

I don’t know.

Like, I was a bit nutty as a kid.

I used to do mad shit.

And like, this is
before even knew about

what I think even
before Jack has existed.

Me and my friends used
to like try and do dumb shit.

Oh, look at that hedge.

We’re gonna jump through it.

Oh, my, I did that.

And then, yeah, you generally don’t
because all the fucking wood inside of

it stops you.

I had a friend who
was insane and he

and I used to try to
jump through hedges.

Yeah.

We’re about 16.

This is when we started drinking and
you get drunk and walk around outside

in the middle of winter in Canada.

And then, jump through people’s hedges.

But this dude was sick.

No, he was younger than that.

He used to break into people’s
house and take a shower and leave.

No, my God.

He wouldn’t do it.

He wouldn’t steal anything or anything.

The worst thing he did was basically
just take a shower, use their towels

and then get out.

That’s so weird.

It’s like, why?

Why?

He’s like, this is real man.

I’ve used their shower
and there’s nothing

they can, they can
never like undo that.

No, I loved it.

We used to go cliff jumping in Cyprus.

I think I must have been about 12 or 13.

And I thought it was, they were cliffs.

And they were like, I
don’t know, 20, 25 meters.

And we were just like, no.

And we stopped because one of our
friends actually hit rock in the water and

ripped his nipple off.

And then our parents found out
what we were doing because obviously.

Now we’re going to
take his to the hospital.

You know that platypuses
don’t have nipples.

They sweat milk.

They’re the weirdest things.

Platypuses are some of the
weirdest animals on the planet.

I read that this morning.

That’s weird that you brought up nipples.

This is just a little aside fact.

Platypuses couldn’t rip a
nipple off while cliff jumping.

Yeah, they can.

If they did do it, they
would start sweating milk.

And the males are venomous.

Yeah.

Only the males, not the females.

Only the males.

Yeah, it’s weird.

But yeah.

So kidney stone.

Kidney stone.

So I had a slight pain
in my stomach and

I thought it was trap
wind or something.

And it was, it was while I was in Japan.

In fact, it wasn’t long after I moved
here, maybe like a year and a half.

And I put it down to the change in diet.

Like, yeah.

Because my diet changed a lot living here.

I just embraced Japanese food.

Because a lot of people complain
that it’s expensive to live here.

But it’s people that
can’t let their old ways go.

Oh, they’re buying basically
import food all the time.

Yeah, I’m trying to
make western style foods.

And I’m like, that shit.

It’s so expensive.

Just eat Japanese shit.

Eat local foods wherever you are.

Yeah.

And I agree with that.

There’s a lot of people come
here and they lose a lot of weight.

Yeah, well, it was me too.

And then I put that down to
where I got the kidney stone.

And so anyway, I thought it was trap wind.

And I was like, I’ll be alright.

I was getting ready for work.

And it was slightly getting worse.

I was like, I just need to fart.

I just need to fart, but…

I was walking to work.

My walk to work
was about 30 minutes

then, because I lived
much further away.

And as I was walking to work, the
pain was getting worse and worse.

Like every step.

Like every step I
was just like, oh, like

someone just digging
a knife inside me.

By the time I got to work,
I just dropped on the floor.

And as I entered the building, and
my school director was sat in the office

and she just saw me.

And I just went, I need help.

I don’t know how to say the whole thing.

But yeah, she was freaking the fuck out.

And I was like, so you’re
on the ground basically, yeah?

I was on the ground.

That’s real.

Real.

I couldn’t… I don’t
know how I got that.

You’re director of the boss, whatever.

She’s probably a Japanese
lady who’s probably like 5-5.

This was actually something that
came up when I did the health checks.

The first time I did them, because
you don’t eat in the morning and then

they take your blood.

So I felt really faint.

And then she was like, are you okay?

And I’m like, I’m just let
me lie down for a minute.

I’ll be fine.

Then the next year I came back
and I was like, you know what?

We should just do this with
me lying down just in case.

And she was like, great.

Because if you fell on the
floor, I could not pick you up.

And I was like, that is
something I had not thought about.

She was like, I would have to just
leave you on the floor until you could

get up by yourself again.

But you’re bigger than me.

So I’m like a little Japanese lady.

It’s not picking you up anytime soon.

Just like put a map over top of you.

Yeah, don’t just give them a blanket.

It’ll be fine.

He’ll get up and put a map on a map.

Don’t put a map on a map.

It’s like an unspoken rule.

Like we freak out.

So what do the doctors do for that?

Well, so I think in the end,
I think she called my wife.

Oh.

And I don’t know why.

I was like, okay.

So my wife came and I got in the car
and we went to the doctors clinic near

my parents in all house.

Because he’s an internal doctor.

And he looked at me and he
went, oh, I think it’s two things.

One of them is very bad.

The other one, not so bad.

But didn’t say anything other than that.

And then just going to be
more careful with the ambulance.

Yeah.

And I was just like, what the fuck?

I am in so much pain.

Oh my god.

Don’t tell me something like that.

But then an ambulance came and
then they did a check and they’re like, oh,

you got kidney stone.

Okay.

And I was like, oh,
I mean, but then I

was like, I’m going
to have to piss it out.

And they went, we’re
giving you some medicine.

Hopefully it will dissolve.

Oh, yeah.

Because I read they had a
Sonic thing they could do now.

And it would break it up.

Oh, to break it up.

Basically blow it up in your body,
which I was like, that is freaky.

But the weirdest part
about this whole story

that’s not even pain
related is that the

doctor that ended up checking it,
the hospital I went to was one of my

students at the school.

Yeah, that’s kind of cool though.

Yeah.

And then she was like,
oh, god, are you okay?

And I’m like, no, she don’t know.

Yeah, actually, no.

I don’t know why I asked that.

I mean, the hospital right now.

And a while later at a school party,
I remember they were getting drunk.

And the first thing the SD asked
that student at the party was when Matt

went to the hospital,
did you see his dick?

I don’t know.

It is like, oh, it is the moment.

And she said, I can’t
say because I’m a doctor.

And I was like, what the wink?

What is this?

Yeah.

But the wink, the wink
actually is a good thing.

Yeah.

Because if it was like teeny tiny,
she would have done something else.

She would have been
like, you know, I saw it.

You would have done it.

Yeah, little finger prawn.

Yeah.

Oh, something like that.

That was fun.

But that was the worst pain, man.

Oh, my god.

I have two.

I have two.

Yeah.

That’s either my balls or my hand.

Which you like to hear about.

Tell me about your balls, Peter.

It is, I think I’ve told
you this story, but

I don’t know what the
listeners, maybe I’m not

have heard it.

It’s in Montana, LDablo.

Yes.

It is one of the side bits.

I was in a judo practice and I
must have been hitting the balls.

I’ve like, there’s a thing, a throw
called Uchi Mata, which I might edit

into this, where your leg goes up
in between and off their balance.

It’s like a, a fulcrum in it flips up.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

I think a guy did that to me poorly
and just kicked me in the balls.

But the adrenaline
meant I didn’t feel anything.

So I took a shower.

So that’s probably
like 15, 20 minutes later.

I took a shower.

And then I got my clothes
on and I was walking home.

So we’re talking like 20, 30 minutes
later and I just stopped and I go, oh,

like it was like delayed pain.

It felt like I had been hit
in the balls 30 minutes later.

Right that.

Yeah.

And then I was like, I had to turn
left and go home or turn right and go to

the hospital.

So I was like, I’m going
to go to the hospital.

Went to the hospital and I remember
the lady saying, like, what’s your name?

Like, my name’s Peter.

So if you’re like, health insurance
card and I give her what I can.

She goes, what’s your
postal code or something?

And I had, look, I just look
at her and went, my balls.

She’s like, what?

I’m like, balls.

Like I didn’t have numbers
in my head anymore.

I don’t know my phone
number and my postal code.

My balls hurt.

And I understand though,
I had a ball experience too.

Yeah, but I’m just
like, she’s talking to me.

I’m like, you don’t understand.

I mean, the emergency room for a reason.

There’s nothing left up here.

It’s all down there.

And then the doctor, they put me in
like a little bed and the doctor’s like,

he take off your pants.

And I take, I start to pull my pants down.

And he had a reaction.

So he went, the doctors
are not supposed to do this.

He went like, no.

So it was just balls.

The testicle sack was black and swollen.

Now it’s about two, three
times bigger than it should be.

Oh god.

And he goes, okay, again,
good news and bad news.

This is all corpuscles and
stuff and they’ve all burst.

So it means it’s going to heal up fine.

So that’s good.

You’re going to be fine.

Bad news is it’s going
to hurt for a long time.

So eventually this is a big bruise.

This is when the drugs they gave
me, the pain medicine started to kick in.

It was really, really strong.

So there’s all looping.

And he looks at me.

He goes, this is this, this,
oh, forget the phrasing.

It was like this kind of
traumatic incidents is very rare.

He used the word trauma.

This kind of specific
trauma is very, very rare.

Would it be okay if I
brought some of the

nurses in or some of
the other doctors into

the end gap?

And I’m on drugs.

I’m not feeling any pain.

I’m like, yeah.

So I’m lying in a bed with my
pants down and a t-shirt on.

So just like this band, it’s like
the opposite of a censorship bar.

And the nurses come
in and they go, oh, and

it makes a little sort
of concern sounds.

And then they go, like, does it hurt?

And I’m like, well, not right
now because I’m on drugs.

And then they move on.

And then it took me forever to realize
it’s been like two hours and groups

of two, three
people going through.

I think the whole hospital
came to look at my moles.

Yeah, I bet.

I’m like, are you going to see these?

Oh my god, this is ridiculous.

What this dude did to his ball.

So then, but I went
back to the hospital for

like three more years
because I was still.

at university and it
got really good service.

And I was like, that’s the ball guy.

He’s a hero now.

He’s really nice.

He’s really nice.

Mine, you don’t teach
us the aboles and the wall.

No, my Juno teacher’s
knee is in a medical journal.

Really?

Yeah, because the surgery was so rare.

He done so much damage to it that
they like reconstructed it and they took

pictures the whole
time and all that’s in a

medical volume
somewhere, which is neat.

Crazy.

Have you ever been hurt and like
followed the, like with my eye, you’re just

like, okay, it’ll
just get better.

I’m not going to do anything and
then you realized it was way worse.

There’s a teaching that’s not worth.

Yeah, no, I don’t think so.

Usually, if I ignore the pain,
it goes away and then it does.

I don’t know.

I’m pretty good at, I think, after
40 years on this earth, I’m good at

knowing when a pain is a real pain,
when I need to get a pain looked at.

Yeah, I can’t.

I can’t tell the difference anymore.

I feel like I’ve got
that down now,

especially like with
the weight training.

You get a lot of pain.

Yeah, sometimes you get pain in the
middle of a workout and I’ve got really

good at knowing whether,
that’s just a bit cramp.

I just need to stretch that out or
whether it’s like, no, I’ve tweaked that.

I’ve got to stop now.

Yeah.

Yeah, I have basically been in
low-key pain for about 30 years.

Well, I mean me
too, because of my

height, like the world
isn’t built for me.

But even in the UK, like I had trouble
with everything being too low, I’ve

had pain since I was a teenager.

And in Japan it’s just amplified,
because I mean everything’s too low and it

also the doors.

Yeah, and the doors thing.

So on the train, the
bar for the door, I’m

184 centimeters and
the bar is set at 180.

So if I’m not careful,
it’s just, it’s not

that I hit my head,
I just ding the top.

Yeah.

Is there a walk out?

See where is my fucking smack it?

Yeah.

I told you the other
day actually, didn’t I?

I meant to like, I hit my head so
hard on a door frame the other day.

I cut the top of my head.

Yeah.

No, that’s messed up.

And sometimes I hit my head so
hard, I feel like a crunk down my spine.

I’m just like, ah, no, no, no,
that feeling, my whole body hurts.

Well, you feel, yes, because it like,
it like vibrates through your body.

Yeah.

And you hit it at the perfect
angle for it to just all compress.

No, sucks.

So yeah, I mean, I think a level of
constant pain is normal in my life too.

Hmm.

Yeah, I’ve just gotten, again, so now
I just assume it’s going to get better

because most of them do.

Yeah.

I turns out, because when they were
looking at my knees, that I’ve chipped

my bone in my knee
and it’s, so there’s a

floater and it’s
calcified, so it’s a little

ball.

So I can’t sit in
kneeling position anymore

with my right knee
because it won’t close.

It really starts to hurt, but the
doctor was like, ah, going in there and

digging it out, it’s
not really worth it.

And you have full range
of motion, basically.

So we’re not going to do anything.

I was like, so, okay.

I mean, I get it.

Like, getting it out is probably
going to go more danger.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it’s just
interesting to realize like

there’s bits of my
body floating around my

body.

And it’s, but like, like you’ve
got tattoos as well, right?

I haven’t tattooed my shoulder in my back.

I don’t have like you do.

You have, you have like all
of your legs and stuff, yeah.

Well, I, I don’t know.

I find like people like, oh, the pain.

I’m like, it’s not that bad.

I was cool.

But again, I don’t know if that’s
me because it can’t just be me.

There’s plenty of people that get them.

Yeah.

Then I wonder some
people like are in

constant agony getting
them, but they want it

for a reason.

Well, there’s, there’s people
who was like low-pain tolerance.

You hear about them just quitting,
like half of their tattoo, they quit.

So I got out on my shoulder, which
is mussely, and I got out on my back.

It’s not a tram stamp.

I got, I got one on my lower back
before trance stamps were a thing.

And like a year later, tram stamps
got top popular and I was like, oh, shit.

It was like, just do more
thong, you’ll be alright.

I got them on, I always were, I thought.

I got them, I got
them on meaty parts,

which I, my understanding
is that the meaty

bits hurt less.

Yes, absolutely.

Because I was, my
first choice for a tattoo

placement was on my
inner arm right, right

up near my armpit and the tattoo I
still like, you’ve literally chosen one

of the most painful
places to get a tattoo.

And I was like, well,
that’s where I want it.

So let’s go.

And it was generally
fine like towards the

elbow and in the middle,
but yeah, as it got.

up towards the armpit,
I was like, that’s fine.

But on the foot, she said this or
her, but actually just felt like a, like a

deep scratch.

No, okay.

The one on my back, it took, it
didn’t take that long because it was just

writing, but it

didn’t, I started to sweat near the
end, but it’s, I think it’s because it

was constant.

But it didn’t, I never like, twitched
around, like I was never at any point

like, I was moving,
yeah, it was fine.

Yeah, I never, and it’s
like, two needles are now.

So advanced, like they don’t
break the skin much anymore.

No, like they’re dragging it
along, but it’s so fine and so fast.

It is just, it’s not dragging the skin.

It’s like moving and piercing.

It’s, they’re amazing because I did my
shoulder when I was 18 and there was

blood, but it

wasn’t much.

And then now you can see them do it.

That’s hardly any at all.

Hardly any blood.

Yeah.

No, I, I didn’t bleed at all.

I don’t remember any blood.

The only coloring I saw
was the coloring of the ink.

Yeah.

Yeah, I was super impressed with that.

I am, I’m glad I found the artist I did.

And then piercings, I went through a
lot of piercings when I was a kid, like

I only, I got, got my eyebrow
done and I was like, that’s fine.

I got my nose done a
couple of times, that’s fine.

I never got any piercings
because you have

to take them out for
judo anyway, so I just

didn’t ever.

Yeah.

So I went through my
youth was tattoos were

cool and then piercings
were cool and then

branding was cool for me.

Ah, branding, yeah.

And I’ve been branding
seems like a step beyond.

That seems like a lot to me.

Scarification is a little popular now too.

Yeah, no, that’s too much for me.

Like even piercing, I was like, I
like the look of piercing, but I would

never do it to myself.

When I was, when I was 18, I went to
the piercing place to get my lip done.

I wanted the middle where the bottom
of my lip done and the guy was like, I

actually don’t have any of
those barbells in right now.

And I was like, oh shit, oh,
I’m here and I want a piercing.

So he’s like, could you tongue
and I went, yeah, all right.

Okay.

Ah, yeah, I wasn’t prepared
for the aftermath of that.

Oh, so your whole tongue swells up, yeah?

Yeah, like so what
they have to do, I didn’t

think about it and he
has these four steps

that I like, like they’re rounded.

So there’s a gap in the middle or the
top and the bottom and he just fucking

grips your

tongue and he has to
really grip it because

you’re going to pull
your tongue back.

Yeah.

So and I was like,
but he did it really fast.

He was a really
professional like, boom,

boom, boom, boom,
boom, and piercing and then

he’d go and I was just like, oh yeah,
oh yeah, and yeah, my tongue, oh fuck,

I couldn’t eat anything
for like a couple of days.

It’s just soup.

And then I had chicken soup and that
was a mistake because there were bits

in it and I was

kept thinking that the bits were
my piercing that I was swallowing.

Yep.

I have a friend who, I think it was
wisdom teeth he got out when his tongue

got swollen.

So they freeze your
whole mouth and he was,

they went to subway
afterwards and he was

eating.

He’s like, this is a
really two piece of meat.

He was chewing his own tongue.

No.

So when the, the, like anesthesia
wore off, his tongue was all chewed up.

He was like, he said there was no pain
worse than chewing your own tongue.

Oh God, I’m winsing right now.

It’s, it’s awful.

Like just hearing it, like you didn’t
have to think about it too much

because you just kind of
know how much that lasts for.

Yeah, because you bite your tongue
and you’re just like, oh, it’s like, it’s

worse than getting
punched in the face.

Yeah, oh yeah, I think so.

It’s, yeah, punch in the face is nothing.

Compared to that, that’s nothing.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah, but pain, I don’t know, like
I have a weird relationship with it

because I, I think,

I think pain is good and I think that
people shouldn’t shy away from it.

No, I think pain
management is part of life.

Yeah, but people that are scared of
doing something because there could be

pain.

It’s, yeah, but pain, pain
isn’t going to kill you.

It’s ignoring the pain
signals that might

and there’s nothing
wrong with experiencing

pain.

I think it’s beneficial.

So I’m one of those
people who like,

you know, your kids
should hurt themselves.

I agree.

My kids there.

I, I guess it’s a mother’s.

Well, you don’t want them.

I don’t want them to go through
life being scared of feeling pain.

So like my kids would cut
themselves and then no reaction.

Like no, that like this very Japanese,
not Japanese, just moms, I guess.

They freak out.

Whereas I was like, oh, you cut yourself.

Let’s go pick out a bandaid.

Oh, and you got to push down on it
to make sure it and just really calm like

is, again, they’re not
going to die from a little cut.

And recently I cut the top off my phone.

Just tiny, tiny, but it was a slice,
not a, not a, I guess, like a knee.

Yeah, you took it off.

Yeah, the little circle
came off, not a slice.

I guess slice is a straight line and
slice is heal better, but because there

was nothing to hold on to.

So I’m like holding it down and I’m
bleeding a lot, but it’s not that bad.

And I’m telling my son, like,
can you get a bandaid in?

He took so much time.

And I was like, I’ve gone
too far the other way.

He’s just not concerned about this all.

I’m like pouring blood
into the sink right now.

Like, can you get something to
help me staunch the bleeding please?

And he’s like, I’m trying
to get the box open.

Yeah, that was a lot.

Yeah, so in summary, pain is good.

Yeah, I think so.

But don’t ignore it, people.

Go to the doctor.

Do you have, because my hand,
I’ve you’ve ever burned yourself?

Yes, with all kinds of things.

Oh, no.

Oil, water.

Oil is bad.

Oil is one of the
reasons if you get oil on

and you try to flush
it off with water, it

pushes it deeper into your skin.

Yeah, no, it’s bad.

Oil.

What was the worst burn?

The worst burn was an iron.

Oh, like, like, for a close.

Yeah.

It fell on my foot.

I was a kid.

I feel like I’ve gotten it.

My feet have gone out a
lot because it’s a big story.

My feet are huge and
they’ve kind of always been.

They stick out a lot.

That’s why again, I bash my feet so much.

Because I do my
roommate in university put

on oil to make French
fries and walked out

and took a phone call and then I
come in and the kitchen’s on fire.

So I grabbed the pot.

And so you can imagine
holding the handle of the pot.

Some of the oil splashed
out onto sort of my knuckle.

Right.

And so I take the
pot outside so that if it

just keeps burning,
it’s not going to burn

anything.

And then I put out what little
fire was in the actual kitchen.

And then then I
realize some oil is

dropped on the floor
and I stepped in it.

So the top of my hand and the bottom
of my foot have been burned with oil.

So I put my hand in
the freezer and I fill

up the sink with water
and I have my foot

in the sink.

And then my girlfriend calls me
and she goes, what are you doing?

I’m like, I’m just
standing with my foot

in the sink and my
hand in the freezer.

And she did me well enough to
know that like it’s a joke, but I’m also

actually doing that.

And she’s like, what happened?

I’m like, I’ve burned myself.

But if I take my hand
out of the freezer,

it immediately starts
to like feel like it’s

on fire again.

So I just stick it back in.

So she came and she
took me to the hospital.

But she said while I was in the car,
I was making jokes the whole time.

And she goes, you know,
you don’t have to make jokes.

And I’m like, I’m just
trying to distract myself.

This isn’t for you.

I’m just trying to say shit to keep
my mind occupied because there’s a

second degree burn which
apparently is the more painful one.

Oh really?

Well third is it hits
the nerves and the

nerves get burned
and you don’t feel it.

So is it isn’t the degree to do it
like the coverage over your body?

No, I don’t.

No, it’s the severity of the burn because
then they say second degree burns

over 80% of your body.

Second degree is how bad it is.

It’s like so how far down is the end?

How deep is it?

So if it’s a third degree burn,
you actually don’t feel anything.

No, because it’s just
destroyed on the nerve.

Everything’s been burned so it’s just gone.

So second degree hurts, like first
degree hurts, second degree hurts more.

And I got this like massive
blister on my hand and stuff.

But doctors had actually
healed up real good.

So nice.

Well that’s good.

Anyways, yes, I have a
weird relationship with pain.

Yeah.

I figure out, because I figure now
every injury going forward is going to be

worse because I’m old.

So I have to be really careful, but
I don’t know how to deal with that

because I’ve spent my
whole life being a tough dude.

Yeah.

And then I think I got to stop that.

It’d be more, take care of myself more.

Yes.

I just remembered another burn.

I got a friction burn.

Ooh.

You know that like
fake like grass stuff

that you can like like
sometimes they have it

on hill sides here and
you can like slide down it.

Oh yeah.

I don’t know what you call it.

It’s like fake snow.

It’s like a turf, but not.

Yeah, it’s stiffer than that.

So there’s a park in
town here where you can

get a sled and just
slide down this thing

and the kids run up and go down it.

When my youngest thought
was younger, she wanted to do it.

And then she got on one and I was
like, I will go next to you and we’ll do

it together.

But she went off first and was like
screaming and I was like fuck and I’d

like dive down together.

And I went down this thing and my
t-shirt rode up and I got this friction

burn down my side.

A holy shit that hurt.

That is a lot.

Yep.

Friction burns in bed.

Yeah, I was thinking about burns.

I mean, I have friction.

Yeah.

Because you get a lot of little
friction burns in judo just from like mat

and burn and stuff.

But when you’re new, you have no calluses.

So I have a friend who joined
and he’s like a sort of fourth week.

He had his first like
actual tough fight and

all the skin on your
first knuckle comes.

off.

And then he’s like, oh yeah.

I’m tight knuckle.

Yeah, because you’re
grabbing onto the judo suit.

And then I guess you’re like pulling in.

Yeah.

Up and down and around and stuff.

But first knuckles actually get burned.

So if a guy who punches the knuckles
on the top of his fist will get really

big in college.

A judo dude, it’s his frunk knuckles.

We’re going to look really fat.

The ones near the nails.

Yeah.

I don’t know.

People who are looking on on Twitch
can actually see my knuckles are bigger

in the front a little bit.

Yeah, no, they are.

You’re right.

I know the news.

Yeah.

That’s just countless.

But so I just looked at him and went,
oh, tonight’s shower is going to suck.

But no context.

And he’s like, what?

You’ll know.

And then he goes into the shower
as soon as the water hits his hands.

He’s like, oh, fuck, that’s
what he’s talking about.

Yeah.

And there’s nothing you can do about it.

So you just got to take it.

Yeah.

That’s funny.

Yeah, because with
the weightlifting I do,

I get calluses on the
inside palm knuckle.

The opposite to punching one.

So I get that when I do
chin ups really regularly.

Yeah, yeah.

I can’t wear my red ring.

I had to put it on like a
chain and wear it on the neck.

Yep.

I had that as well.

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Premise.

I was going to actually
talk about this previously.

Previously on Peter’s or about shit.

My face. Previously in my face.

That’s what it should be called.

It’s like two months ago.

I got banged in the head in judo
and honestly it wasn’t that bad.

It’s what I thought.

And then I went home and put ice on it.

And I was like, okay, I’m
going to get a black eye.

It’s fine.
I’ve had those like a million times.

Then it went.

It went on and on and on.

It did not stop.

I was like, okay, this is worse.

It’s not turning black.

It was actually my biggest concern.

Because it’s not turning black.

Maybe I think it was like something more.

So then I went to the eye doctor.

And the eye doctor said your left eye.

The pressure is at five.

Which is good.

That’s normal.

So normal is apparently
between zero and ten.

Your right eye.

I forgot the exact.

I wrote down the number.

It was like 156.

It was hundreds of times more
than what it was supposed to be.

Your left eye.

Which one?

It was my right eye.

It was my right temple.

It was my right temple.

It was my right temple.

Your right eye was at
the bottom of the ocean.

Yes.

So it turns out the muscles
inside were so swollen.

It was squishing my eye.

And it changed basically my prescription.

This is where the premise came from.

So then I had to go on
steroids and in drops and stuff.

And all this other stuff.

And about two weeks later it was fine.

The next day.

The compression chamber.

Did your eye get the bends?

I’ve done a decompression chamber.

Really?

Yeah.

My university had one.

And you go into them for sports injuries.

So my university was one
of the biggest in Canada.

Tangent immediately.

It was one of the biggest in Canada.

And so it had like a full football
team, full basketball team.

The Giro team was nothing.

It’s like a side project.

Yeah.

That we had a teacher
so they made a judo club.

But all these facilities existed.

So because we
were official sports

team of the university,
we did get access.

We just got shitty access.

So it was like at three
o’clock in the morning,

if you’d like to use the
decompression chamber, you can.

10 minutes.

No, no.

But I mean, I was like– I
was like, someone else needs it.

Yeah.

And then someone who’s good needs it.

It’s what we support.

It’s like a member of
the football team needs it.

So you know, you have to get out.

But I did, yeah, I did it in university.

You just said it didn’t–
it wasn’t that bad.

Like I thought it would
be like feel different.

You just kind of sit there.

I didn’t understand
what was going on maybe.

Maybe they didn’t turn it on.

They didn’t even turn it on.

It’s like a lot of placebo effect.

It’s like a lot of placebo effect.

Like this dumb shit.

He does judo.

He’s not going to know it.

Yeah.

He’s been bagged in the head enough.

That’s he think they
did the football guys, too.

Yeah.

No, no.

Yeah.

A lot of the stuff was
for the football team.

Our football team.

Yeah, but they’ve been
bagged in the head a lot.

A lot more than you.

Oh, yeah, I’m sure.

Because they do it on purpose.

Yeah.

I’ve been– They push that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They push that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It’s never been on purpose.

So.

But then I– after this
sort of eye adventure,

I was thinking like–
I– Why– You–

Why– You– Myself
and I adventure.

Why didn’t this hurt more?

Why didn’t this like affect me more?

I realized like it went
back to two years ago.

When I was in the hospital.

And they did that scan where they
put the radiation thing in my body.

And scanned all my
inflammation and scar tissue.

And the guy who ran that
machine thought it was broken.

And– Of the machine was broken.

Yeah, yeah.

So they put me in the machine.

And he was very proud–

This, this, this, Japanese dude
was super proud of this machine.

Because he was clearly
the only guy who can use it.

And he’s like, he’s like, “Mm-mm,
mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm.

King of my little castle.

This is my domain.”

You know, he clearly was in charge.

And then he turned on the machine.

And then he turned on the machine.

And then he turned on the machine.

And then he turned on the machine.

And then he walked out of the room.

And he walked back in with his
very concerned look on his face.

And he started doing
adjustments on the machine.

And he walked out– He
was like– Mumbling to him.

Why isn’t this guy dead?

Yeah, he’s like, “Wait,
I’m not too far off.

Zombies.”.

And then he came back in two times.

And then he just went
out and never came back.

And then I was in the bed in
the hospital waiting for results.

And the doctor came in and he just
looked at me like, “What the fuck?”

Yeah.

So basically my entire spine, my
hips, my neck, any joint had scar tissue

from 30 plus years of judo.

And so I realized like all that
is cumulative pain tolerance,

which is why I probably
got smacked in the head.

It probably hurt a lot, but
I’m just so used to pain.

Yeah.

It didn’t bother me.

It just why I didn’t go to
the doctor for like two weeks.

Yeah.

So I thought that was
interesting as a concept as an idea

because it’s like, we
consider pain tolerance good,

but it’s your body
sending you a message

that you should go
take care of something,

which I did not do.

Yeah, but some– I don’t know.

Yeah, maybe it’s just men.

We’re just idiots.

Because sometimes I
get a pain and I’m like,

“Ah, it’s just one of
them random pains.”

Like, it just comes and goes.

Like, I just ignore it.

It’s all right.

I think that’s fair.

I think the toxic masculinity
culture thing is a big part of it.

I think that is relevant.

Because I never, you know,
I never, no one ever told me

that feeling pain is like not manly.

That was never something that was said,

but I guess maybe I
absorbed it from somewhere.

All the man I think, honestly, all
of toxic masculinity is never taught.

It’s just culture.

Like, they don’t teach you culture.

You just grow up around it.

And you see how the other men act.

You see, again, our movies and stuff.

This, actually, I have
another applicable story.

Can you give me the end
of any sort of kumite movie?

So, Jean-Claude Van Damme,
he goes to a fighting tournament.

The last fight.

Can you summarize the last fight?

What happens in the last fight?

He gets his ass beat and he’s
bleeding and bruised and broken.

And then, some is some demon
from another dimension and wins.

Exactly.

Okay.

So, would you like to know the
real version that I went through?

Of course.

Then you got your ass beat and died.

No, no.

So, I was trying to get
into the nationals in Canada.

I was trying to go to
the Olympics, basically.

Yeah.

So, I’d won essentially half of Canada.

I needed to win.

Nice.

I needed to win the other half.

So, I– He did Canada.

I was– The French half,
or the– The French half.

The French half is actually
way better at chewed on me.

So, I’m in this judo tournament and I’m–

judo’s a lot of grabbing
onto the callers and stuff.

And this guy takes two of my
fingers and bends them backwards.

So, he breaks my little finger and I
think he, like, messed up the next one.

So, little fingers hurt.

Yeah.

So, what do I do?

I’ve seen a lot of movies in my life.

I’m like, tape it up.

I’m going back in.

Yeah.

Okay.

Because the end of every movie
I’ve ever seen and how do you win?

You win with your heart.

It’s not– You know, it’s
not– It’s not– It’s not great.

Yeah, it’s not how much you’ve trained
or how much you believe in yourself.

And I believe in myself.

And so, I am crying at this point.

So, they tape–

I tape up my fingers and I go back
in three seconds for the guy to win.

Yeah, I bet.

Because you can’t do
judo with only one hand.

And he just, like, ripped me apart
and I’m just lying in the ground going,

“Oh, this was dumb.”

And then, that’s the end of my judo career.

Yeah.

Backing off the mats, I’m
just bawling my eyes out.

I’m trying not to let anyone see
because I still have all the toxic

masculinity and stuff.

Just me just tears running down
my face and I’m like telling myself it’s

just because it hurts my hand.

I’m just like, “No, my
dreams have all ended.”

But that is the realistic
version of the end of that story.

Something bad happens that you
do not, you know, power through.

You do power through, yeah.

Like, you leading from my ears and my eyes.

You still got to win.

You just get your ass kicked.

Yeah.

So I was wondering, I have tons and
tons of stories about getting hurt, but

it’s all judo stuff.

But I was wondering,
like, what do you

think is the most pain
you felt at one time?

Oh, physically, like, the worst?

No, my diet don’t feel anything anymore.

Oh, that’s actually, yes,
that’s the callus of your heart.

The callus of my
heart, yeah, the,

it’s like, like, chicken
gristle in there.

But, um, I think
the worst physical

pain I’ve ever been
in was a kidney stone.

I’ve never had one.

Oh, my God.

I…

Oh, I thought a broken bone.

Like, a broken bone
was the worst pain

I’d ever had until I
got a kidney stone.

Did you, what, what, what,
what, what, what, did you break?

I’ve broken my, my, both, my feet,
like, metatarsals and both my feet.

How did you do that?

Um, I actually don’t even know.

Oh, no, that’s so much worse.

Well, I just kept
walking around as well,

like, making it swell
up and get worse.

Yeah.

And I’m like, I’ll go away, I’ll go
away until I could barely walk.

And then I finally
went to the doctor

and he went, yeah,
he broke in your bones.

And I’m like, what?

He said, be, where it
is, you can’t do anything.

So he just gave me some crutches
and said, just keep it off the ground.

Yeah, I’ve broken most of my toes.

Um, I think I’ve broken toes, but
I’ve never done anything about it.

There’s nothing you can do.

You can’t put a little
cast on it or anything.

So I just carried on with my day.

The best you could do is just tape it up.

I actually, um, I broke my little toe
in a judo practice and then I just put

on some really tight
shoes and I heard this crrrr.

And I was like, oh, it’s back in place.

No.

Right?

I’ve never dislocated anything.

That’s one thing.

The other thing I broke was my forearm.

I fell out of a tree.

Did that hurt?

I almost hurt.

Yeah, but… The bone
break doesn’t hurt.

It’s on the muscles
around it and stuff that hurt.

Yeah, I don’t really remember it hurting.

It is more like a quick snap of pain.

And then I was just like, oh, that hurts.

Like, the like that kind
of like, oh, that hurts.

And I wasn’t like crying dying.

I was like, oh, that really hurts.

Oh, yeah, that hurts.

This sucks.

Yeah.

I don’t know.

Like, I was a bit nutty as a kid.

I used to do mad shit.

And like, this is
before even knew about

what I think even
before Jack has existed.

Me and my friends used
to like try and do dumb shit.

Oh, look at that hedge.

We’re gonna jump through it.

Oh, my, I did that.

And then, yeah, you generally don’t
because all the fucking wood inside of

it stops you.

I had a friend who
was insane and he

and I used to try to
jump through hedges.

Yeah.

We’re about 16.

This is when we started drinking and
you get drunk and walk around outside

in the middle of winter in Canada.

And then, jump through people’s hedges.

But this dude was sick.

No, he was younger than that.

He used to break into people’s
house and take a shower and leave.

No, my God.

He wouldn’t do it.

He wouldn’t steal anything or anything.

The worst thing he did was basically
just take a shower, use their towels

and then get out.

That’s so weird.

It’s like, why?

Why?

He’s like, this is real man.

I’ve used their shower
and there’s nothing

they can, they can
never like undo that.

No, I loved it.

We used to go cliff jumping in Cyprus.

I think I must have been about 12 or 13.

And I thought it was, they were cliffs.

And they were like, I
don’t know, 20, 25 meters.

And we were just like, no.

And we stopped because one of our
friends actually hit rock in the water and

ripped his nipple off.

And then our parents found out
what we were doing because obviously.

Now we’re going to
take his to the hospital.

You know that platypuses
don’t have nipples.

They sweat milk.

They’re the weirdest things.

Platypuses are some of the
weirdest animals on the planet.

I read that this morning.

That’s weird that you brought up nipples.

This is just a little aside fact.

Platypuses couldn’t rip a
nipple off while cliff jumping.

Yeah, they can.

If they did do it, they
would start sweating milk.

And the males are venomous.

Yeah.

Only the males, not the females.

Only the males.

Yeah, it’s weird.

But yeah.

So kidney stone.

Kidney stone.

So I had a slight pain
in my stomach and

I thought it was trap
wind or something.

And it was, it was while I was in Japan.

In fact, it wasn’t long after I moved
here, maybe like a year and a half.

And I put it down to the change in diet.

Like, yeah.

Because my diet changed a lot living here.

I just embraced Japanese food.

Because a lot of people complain
that it’s expensive to live here.

But it’s people that
can’t let their old ways go.

Oh, they’re buying basically
import food all the time.

Yeah, I’m trying to
make western style foods.

And I’m like, that shit.

It’s so expensive.

Just eat Japanese shit.

Eat local foods wherever you are.

Yeah.

And I agree with that.

There’s a lot of people come
here and they lose a lot of weight.

Yeah, well, it was me too.

And then I put that down to
where I got the kidney stone.

And so anyway, I thought it was trap wind.

And I was like, I’ll be alright.

I was getting ready for work.

And it was slightly getting worse.

I was like, I just need to fart.

I just need to fart, but…

I was walking to work.

My walk to work
was about 30 minutes

then, because I lived
much further away.

And as I was walking to work, the
pain was getting worse and worse.

Like every step.

Like every step I
was just like, oh, like

someone just digging
a knife inside me.

By the time I got to work,
I just dropped on the floor.

And as I entered the building, and
my school director was sat in the office

and she just saw me.

And I just went, I need help.

I don’t know how to say the whole thing.

But yeah, she was freaking the fuck out.

And I was like, so you’re
on the ground basically, yeah?

I was on the ground.

That’s real.

Real.

I couldn’t… I don’t
know how I got that.

You’re director of the boss, whatever.

She’s probably a Japanese
lady who’s probably like 5-5.

This was actually something that
came up when I did the health checks.

The first time I did them, because
you don’t eat in the morning and then

they take your blood.

So I felt really faint.

And then she was like, are you okay?

And I’m like, I’m just let
me lie down for a minute.

I’ll be fine.

Then the next year I came back
and I was like, you know what?

We should just do this with
me lying down just in case.

And she was like, great.

Because if you fell on the
floor, I could not pick you up.

And I was like, that is
something I had not thought about.

She was like, I would have to just
leave you on the floor until you could

get up by yourself again.

But you’re bigger than me.

So I’m like a little Japanese lady.

It’s not picking you up anytime soon.

Just like put a map over top of you.

Yeah, don’t just give them a blanket.

It’ll be fine.

He’ll get up and put a map on a map.

Don’t put a map on a map.

It’s like an unspoken rule.

Like we freak out.

So what do the doctors do for that?

Well, so I think in the end,
I think she called my wife.

Oh.

And I don’t know why.

I was like, okay.

So my wife came and I got in the car
and we went to the doctors clinic near

my parents in all house.

Because he’s an internal doctor.

And he looked at me and he
went, oh, I think it’s two things.

One of them is very bad.

The other one, not so bad.

But didn’t say anything other than that.

And then just going to be
more careful with the ambulance.

Yeah.

And I was just like, what the fuck?

I am in so much pain.

Oh my god.

Don’t tell me something like that.

But then an ambulance came and
then they did a check and they’re like, oh,

you got kidney stone.

Okay.

And I was like, oh,
I mean, but then I

was like, I’m going
to have to piss it out.

And they went, we’re
giving you some medicine.

Hopefully it will dissolve.

Oh, yeah.

Because I read they had a
Sonic thing they could do now.

And it would break it up.

Oh, to break it up.

Basically blow it up in your body,
which I was like, that is freaky.

But the weirdest part
about this whole story

that’s not even pain
related is that the

doctor that ended up checking it,
the hospital I went to was one of my

students at the school.

Yeah, that’s kind of cool though.

Yeah.

And then she was like,
oh, god, are you okay?

And I’m like, no, she don’t know.

Yeah, actually, no.

I don’t know why I asked that.

I mean, the hospital right now.

And a while later at a school party,
I remember they were getting drunk.

And the first thing the SD asked
that student at the party was when Matt

went to the hospital,
did you see his dick?

I don’t know.

It is like, oh, it is the moment.

And she said, I can’t
say because I’m a doctor.

And I was like, what the wink?

What is this?

Yeah.

But the wink, the wink
actually is a good thing.

Yeah.

Because if it was like teeny tiny,
she would have done something else.

She would have been
like, you know, I saw it.

You would have done it.

Yeah, little finger prawn.

Yeah.

Oh, something like that.

That was fun.

But that was the worst pain, man.

Oh, my god.

I have two.

I have two.

Yeah.

That’s either my balls or my hand.

Which you like to hear about.

Tell me about your balls, Peter.

It is, I think I’ve told
you this story, but

I don’t know what the
listeners, maybe I’m not

have heard it.

It’s in Montana, LDablo.

Yes.

It is one of the side bits.

I was in a judo practice and I
must have been hitting the balls.

I’ve like, there’s a thing, a throw
called Uchi Mata, which I might edit

into this, where your leg goes up
in between and off their balance.

It’s like a, a fulcrum in it flips up.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

I think a guy did that to me poorly
and just kicked me in the balls.

But the adrenaline
meant I didn’t feel anything.

So I took a shower.

So that’s probably
like 15, 20 minutes later.

I took a shower.

And then I got my clothes
on and I was walking home.

So we’re talking like 20, 30 minutes
later and I just stopped and I go, oh,

like it was like delayed pain.

It felt like I had been hit
in the balls 30 minutes later.

Right that.

Yeah.

And then I was like, I had to turn
left and go home or turn right and go to

the hospital.

So I was like, I’m going
to go to the hospital.

Went to the hospital and I remember
the lady saying, like, what’s your name?

Like, my name’s Peter.

So if you’re like, health insurance
card and I give her what I can.

She goes, what’s your
postal code or something?

And I had, look, I just look
at her and went, my balls.

She’s like, what?

I’m like, balls.

Like I didn’t have numbers
in my head anymore.

I don’t know my phone
number and my postal code.

My balls hurt.

And I understand though,
I had a ball experience too.

Yeah, but I’m just
like, she’s talking to me.

I’m like, you don’t understand.

I mean, the emergency room for a reason.

There’s nothing left up here.

It’s all down there.

And then the doctor, they put me in
like a little bed and the doctor’s like,

he take off your pants.

And I take, I start to pull my pants down.

And he had a reaction.

So he went, the doctors
are not supposed to do this.

He went like, no.

So it was just balls.

The testicle sack was black and swollen.

Now it’s about two, three
times bigger than it should be.

Oh god.

And he goes, okay, again,
good news and bad news.

This is all corpuscles and
stuff and they’ve all burst.

So it means it’s going to heal up fine.

So that’s good.

You’re going to be fine.

Bad news is it’s going
to hurt for a long time.

So eventually this is a big bruise.

This is when the drugs they gave
me, the pain medicine started to kick in.

It was really, really strong.

So there’s all looping.

And he looks at me.

He goes, this is this, this,
oh, forget the phrasing.

It was like this kind of
traumatic incidents is very rare.

He used the word trauma.

This kind of specific
trauma is very, very rare.

Would it be okay if I
brought some of the

nurses in or some of
the other doctors into

the end gap?

And I’m on drugs.

I’m not feeling any pain.

I’m like, yeah.

So I’m lying in a bed with my
pants down and a t-shirt on.

So just like this band, it’s like
the opposite of a censorship bar.

And the nurses come
in and they go, oh, and

it makes a little sort
of concern sounds.

And then they go, like, does it hurt?

And I’m like, well, not right
now because I’m on drugs.

And then they move on.

And then it took me forever to realize
it’s been like two hours and groups

of two, three
people going through.

I think the whole hospital
came to look at my moles.

Yeah, I bet.

I’m like, are you going to see these?

Oh my god, this is ridiculous.

What this dude did to his ball.

So then, but I went
back to the hospital for

like three more years
because I was still.

at university and it
got really good service.

And I was like, that’s the ball guy.

He’s a hero now.

He’s really nice.

He’s really nice.

Mine, you don’t teach
us the aboles and the wall.

No, my Juno teacher’s
knee is in a medical journal.

Really?

Yeah, because the surgery was so rare.

He done so much damage to it that
they like reconstructed it and they took

pictures the whole
time and all that’s in a

medical volume
somewhere, which is neat.

Crazy.

Have you ever been hurt and like
followed the, like with my eye, you’re just

like, okay, it’ll
just get better.

I’m not going to do anything and
then you realized it was way worse.

There’s a teaching that’s not worth.

Yeah, no, I don’t think so.

Usually, if I ignore the pain,
it goes away and then it does.

I don’t know.

I’m pretty good at, I think, after
40 years on this earth, I’m good at

knowing when a pain is a real pain,
when I need to get a pain looked at.

Yeah, I can’t.

I can’t tell the difference anymore.

I feel like I’ve got
that down now,

especially like with
the weight training.

You get a lot of pain.

Yeah, sometimes you get pain in the
middle of a workout and I’ve got really

good at knowing whether,
that’s just a bit cramp.

I just need to stretch that out or
whether it’s like, no, I’ve tweaked that.

I’ve got to stop now.

Yeah.

Yeah, I have basically been in
low-key pain for about 30 years.

Well, I mean me
too, because of my

height, like the world
isn’t built for me.

But even in the UK, like I had trouble
with everything being too low, I’ve

had pain since I was a teenager.

And in Japan it’s just amplified,
because I mean everything’s too low and it

also the doors.

Yeah, and the doors thing.

So on the train, the
bar for the door, I’m

184 centimeters and
the bar is set at 180.

So if I’m not careful,
it’s just, it’s not

that I hit my head,
I just ding the top.

Yeah.

Is there a walk out?

See where is my fucking smack it?

Yeah.

I told you the other
day actually, didn’t I?

I meant to like, I hit my head so
hard on a door frame the other day.

I cut the top of my head.

Yeah.

No, that’s messed up.

And sometimes I hit my head so
hard, I feel like a crunk down my spine.

I’m just like, ah, no, no, no,
that feeling, my whole body hurts.

Well, you feel, yes, because it like,
it like vibrates through your body.

Yeah.

And you hit it at the perfect
angle for it to just all compress.

No, sucks.

So yeah, I mean, I think a level of
constant pain is normal in my life too.

Hmm.

Yeah, I’ve just gotten, again, so now
I just assume it’s going to get better

because most of them do.

Yeah.

I turns out, because when they were
looking at my knees, that I’ve chipped

my bone in my knee
and it’s, so there’s a

floater and it’s
calcified, so it’s a little

ball.

So I can’t sit in
kneeling position anymore

with my right knee
because it won’t close.

It really starts to hurt, but the
doctor was like, ah, going in there and

digging it out, it’s
not really worth it.

And you have full range
of motion, basically.

So we’re not going to do anything.

I was like, so, okay.

I mean, I get it.

Like, getting it out is probably
going to go more danger.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, it’s just
interesting to realize like

there’s bits of my
body floating around my

body.

And it’s, but like, like you’ve
got tattoos as well, right?

I haven’t tattooed my shoulder in my back.

I don’t have like you do.

You have, you have like all
of your legs and stuff, yeah.

Well, I, I don’t know.

I find like people like, oh, the pain.

I’m like, it’s not that bad.

I was cool.

But again, I don’t know if that’s
me because it can’t just be me.

There’s plenty of people that get them.

Yeah.

Then I wonder some
people like are in

constant agony getting
them, but they want it

for a reason.

Well, there’s, there’s people
who was like low-pain tolerance.

You hear about them just quitting,
like half of their tattoo, they quit.

So I got out on my shoulder, which
is mussely, and I got out on my back.

It’s not a tram stamp.

I got, I got one on my lower back
before trance stamps were a thing.

And like a year later, tram stamps
got top popular and I was like, oh, shit.

It was like, just do more
thong, you’ll be alright.

I got them on, I always were, I thought.

I got them, I got
them on meaty parts,

which I, my understanding
is that the meaty

bits hurt less.

Yes, absolutely.

Because I was, my
first choice for a tattoo

placement was on my
inner arm right, right

up near my armpit and the tattoo I
still like, you’ve literally chosen one

of the most painful
places to get a tattoo.

And I was like, well,
that’s where I want it.

So let’s go.

And it was generally
fine like towards the

elbow and in the middle,
but yeah, as it got.

up towards the armpit,
I was like, that’s fine.

But on the foot, she said this or
her, but actually just felt like a, like a

deep scratch.

No, okay.

The one on my back, it took, it
didn’t take that long because it was just

writing, but it

didn’t, I started to sweat near the
end, but it’s, I think it’s because it

was constant.

But it didn’t, I never like, twitched
around, like I was never at any point

like, I was moving,
yeah, it was fine.

Yeah, I never, and it’s
like, two needles are now.

So advanced, like they don’t
break the skin much anymore.

No, like they’re dragging it
along, but it’s so fine and so fast.

It is just, it’s not dragging the skin.

It’s like moving and piercing.

It’s, they’re amazing because I did my
shoulder when I was 18 and there was

blood, but it

wasn’t much.

And then now you can see them do it.

That’s hardly any at all.

Hardly any blood.

Yeah.

No, I, I didn’t bleed at all.

I don’t remember any blood.

The only coloring I saw
was the coloring of the ink.

Yeah.

Yeah, I was super impressed with that.

I am, I’m glad I found the artist I did.

And then piercings, I went through a
lot of piercings when I was a kid, like

I only, I got, got my eyebrow
done and I was like, that’s fine.

I got my nose done a
couple of times, that’s fine.

I never got any piercings
because you have

to take them out for
judo anyway, so I just

didn’t ever.

Yeah.

So I went through my
youth was tattoos were

cool and then piercings
were cool and then

branding was cool for me.

Ah, branding, yeah.

And I’ve been branding
seems like a step beyond.

That seems like a lot to me.

Scarification is a little popular now too.

Yeah, no, that’s too much for me.

Like even piercing, I was like, I
like the look of piercing, but I would

never do it to myself.

When I was, when I was 18, I went to
the piercing place to get my lip done.

I wanted the middle where the bottom
of my lip done and the guy was like, I

actually don’t have any of
those barbells in right now.

And I was like, oh shit, oh,
I’m here and I want a piercing.

So he’s like, could you tongue
and I went, yeah, all right.

Okay.

Ah, yeah, I wasn’t prepared
for the aftermath of that.

Oh, so your whole tongue swells up, yeah?

Yeah, like so what
they have to do, I didn’t

think about it and he
has these four steps

that I like, like they’re rounded.

So there’s a gap in the middle or the
top and the bottom and he just fucking

grips your

tongue and he has to
really grip it because

you’re going to pull
your tongue back.

Yeah.

So and I was like,
but he did it really fast.

He was a really
professional like, boom,

boom, boom, boom,
boom, and piercing and then

he’d go and I was just like, oh yeah,
oh yeah, and yeah, my tongue, oh fuck,

I couldn’t eat anything
for like a couple of days.

It’s just soup.

And then I had chicken soup and that
was a mistake because there were bits

in it and I was

kept thinking that the bits were
my piercing that I was swallowing.

Yep.

I have a friend who, I think it was
wisdom teeth he got out when his tongue

got swollen.

So they freeze your
whole mouth and he was,

they went to subway
afterwards and he was

eating.

He’s like, this is a
really two piece of meat.

He was chewing his own tongue.

No.

So when the, the, like anesthesia
wore off, his tongue was all chewed up.

He was like, he said there was no pain
worse than chewing your own tongue.

Oh God, I’m winsing right now.

It’s, it’s awful.

Like just hearing it, like you didn’t
have to think about it too much

because you just kind of
know how much that lasts for.

Yeah, because you bite your tongue
and you’re just like, oh, it’s like, it’s

worse than getting
punched in the face.

Yeah, oh yeah, I think so.

It’s, yeah, punch in the face is nothing.

Compared to that, that’s nothing.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah, but pain, I don’t know, like
I have a weird relationship with it

because I, I think,

I think pain is good and I think that
people shouldn’t shy away from it.

No, I think pain
management is part of life.

Yeah, but people that are scared of
doing something because there could be

pain.

It’s, yeah, but pain, pain
isn’t going to kill you.

It’s ignoring the pain
signals that might

and there’s nothing
wrong with experiencing

pain.

I think it’s beneficial.

So I’m one of those
people who like,

you know, your kids
should hurt themselves.

I agree.

My kids there.

I, I guess it’s a mother’s.

Well, you don’t want them.

I don’t want them to go through
life being scared of feeling pain.

So like my kids would cut
themselves and then no reaction.

Like no, that like this very Japanese,
not Japanese, just moms, I guess.

They freak out.

Whereas I was like, oh, you cut yourself.

Let’s go pick out a bandaid.

Oh, and you got to push down on it
to make sure it and just really calm like

is, again, they’re not
going to die from a little cut.

And recently I cut the top off my phone.

Just tiny, tiny, but it was a slice,
not a, not a, I guess, like a knee.

Yeah, you took it off.

Yeah, the little circle
came off, not a slice.

I guess slice is a straight line and
slice is heal better, but because there

was nothing to hold on to.

So I’m like holding it down and I’m
bleeding a lot, but it’s not that bad.

And I’m telling my son, like,
can you get a bandaid in?

He took so much time.

And I was like, I’ve gone
too far the other way.

He’s just not concerned about this all.

I’m like pouring blood
into the sink right now.

Like, can you get something to
help me staunch the bleeding please?

And he’s like, I’m trying
to get the box open.

Yeah, that was a lot.

Yeah, so in summary, pain is good.

Yeah, I think so.

But don’t ignore it, people.

Go to the doctor.

Do you have, because my hand,
I’ve you’ve ever burned yourself?

Yes, with all kinds of things.

Oh, no.

Oil, water.

Oil is bad.

Oil is one of the
reasons if you get oil on

and you try to flush
it off with water, it

pushes it deeper into your skin.

Yeah, no, it’s bad.

Oil.

What was the worst burn?

The worst burn was an iron.

Oh, like, like, for a close.

Yeah.

It fell on my foot.

I was a kid.

I feel like I’ve gotten it.

My feet have gone out a
lot because it’s a big story.

My feet are huge and
they’ve kind of always been.

They stick out a lot.

That’s why again, I bash my feet so much.

Because I do my
roommate in university put

on oil to make French
fries and walked out

and took a phone call and then I
come in and the kitchen’s on fire.

So I grabbed the pot.

And so you can imagine
holding the handle of the pot.

Some of the oil splashed
out onto sort of my knuckle.

Right.

And so I take the
pot outside so that if it

just keeps burning,
it’s not going to burn

anything.

And then I put out what little
fire was in the actual kitchen.

And then then I
realize some oil is

dropped on the floor
and I stepped in it.

So the top of my hand and the bottom
of my foot have been burned with oil.

So I put my hand in
the freezer and I fill

up the sink with water
and I have my foot

in the sink.

And then my girlfriend calls me
and she goes, what are you doing?

I’m like, I’m just
standing with my foot

in the sink and my
hand in the freezer.

And she did me well enough to
know that like it’s a joke, but I’m also

actually doing that.

And she’s like, what happened?

I’m like, I’ve burned myself.

But if I take my hand
out of the freezer,

it immediately starts
to like feel like it’s

on fire again.

So I just stick it back in.

So she came and she
took me to the hospital.

But she said while I was in the car,
I was making jokes the whole time.

And she goes, you know,
you don’t have to make jokes.

And I’m like, I’m just
trying to distract myself.

This isn’t for you.

I’m just trying to say shit to keep
my mind occupied because there’s a

second degree burn which
apparently is the more painful one.

Oh really?

Well third is it hits
the nerves and the

nerves get burned
and you don’t feel it.

So is it isn’t the degree to do it
like the coverage over your body?

No, I don’t.

No, it’s the severity of the burn because
then they say second degree burns

over 80% of your body.

Second degree is how bad it is.

It’s like so how far down is the end?

How deep is it?

So if it’s a third degree burn,
you actually don’t feel anything.

No, because it’s just
destroyed on the nerve.

Everything’s been burned so it’s just gone.

So second degree hurts, like first
degree hurts, second degree hurts more.

And I got this like massive
blister on my hand and stuff.

But doctors had actually
healed up real good.

So nice.

Well that’s good.

Anyways, yes, I have a
weird relationship with pain.

Yeah.

I figure out, because I figure now
every injury going forward is going to be

worse because I’m old.

So I have to be really careful, but
I don’t know how to deal with that

because I’ve spent my
whole life being a tough dude.

Yeah.

And then I think I got to stop that.

It’d be more, take care of myself more.

Yes.

I just remembered another burn.

I got a friction burn.

Ooh.

You know that like
fake like grass stuff

that you can like like
sometimes they have it

on hill sides here and
you can like slide down it.

Oh yeah.

I don’t know what you call it.

It’s like fake snow.

It’s like a turf, but not.

Yeah, it’s stiffer than that.

So there’s a park in
town here where you can

get a sled and just
slide down this thing

and the kids run up and go down it.

When my youngest thought
was younger, she wanted to do it.

And then she got on one and I was
like, I will go next to you and we’ll do

it together.

But she went off first and was like
screaming and I was like fuck and I’d

like dive down together.

And I went down this thing and my
t-shirt rode up and I got this friction

burn down my side.

A holy shit that hurt.

That is a lot.

Yep.

Friction burns in bed.

Yeah, I was thinking about burns.

I mean, I have friction.

Yeah.

Because you get a lot of little
friction burns in judo just from like mat

and burn and stuff.

But when you’re new, you have no calluses.

So I have a friend who joined
and he’s like a sort of fourth week.

He had his first like
actual tough fight and

all the skin on your
first knuckle comes.

off.

And then he’s like, oh yeah.

I’m tight knuckle.

Yeah, because you’re
grabbing onto the judo suit.

And then I guess you’re like pulling in.

Yeah.

Up and down and around and stuff.

But first knuckles actually get burned.

So if a guy who punches the knuckles
on the top of his fist will get really

big in college.

A judo dude, it’s his frunk knuckles.

We’re going to look really fat.

The ones near the nails.

Yeah.

I don’t know.

People who are looking on on Twitch
can actually see my knuckles are bigger

in the front a little bit.

Yeah, no, they are.

You’re right.

I know the news.

Yeah.

That’s just countless.

But so I just looked at him and went,
oh, tonight’s shower is going to suck.

But no context.

And he’s like, what?

You’ll know.

And then he goes into the shower
as soon as the water hits his hands.

He’s like, oh, fuck, that’s
what he’s talking about.

Yeah.

And there’s nothing you can do about it.

So you just got to take it.

Yeah.

That’s funny.

Yeah, because with
the weightlifting I do,

I get calluses on the
inside palm knuckle.

The opposite to punching one.

So I get that when I do
chin ups really regularly.

Yeah, yeah.

I can’t wear my red ring.

I had to put it on like a
chain and wear it on the neck.

Yep.

I had that as well.

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